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On 8/4/2010 9:19 PM, Dustin wrote:
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     The only people who really care are the people who want too
nitpick over a commonly accepted term to describe all malware. I
could see this person correcting a customer that they're using a
the wrong terminology and I can see that customer saying they
won't call that person back because they were a nerdy asshole.
I've seen it happen.

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     This means absolutely nothing in the real world. Just an
opinion. I don't care what you think of me or what I do. I do
know this, I will be able to retire soon because of my work. I
also did it all on my own, built a great reputation as a nice
guy who wouldn't get bent out of shape because someone
substitutes "virus" for "malware".

    A funny story. I used to work with a guy who was very
correcting of people he worked with. He would try to make
himself seem superior to people he worked for because he knew a
lot about his field. He was the kind of guy that would
repeatedly correct someone he was working for. I would work for
some of his former customers and many of them didn't want to
call him back because he was such an anal retentive asshole. But
hey he just had to be "right" all the time and refused to admit
he was wrong when he obviously was... Just a little tale to help
you reach retirement in your field...

John

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I'm not trying to nitpick you John. You said you were a professional, I
thought you might like to use the correct terminology. For something to
be called a virus, it must replicate on purpose. Trojans don't do that.
it's not being anal john, it's being technically correct; which is
important as a professional.

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I'm not bent out of shape John, apologies if I came across that way.
 
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A manager I once had was like that. I stood back and watched him burn
up 3 brand new mainboards right off the shelf, before he bothered to
check the voltage levels of the power supply. I only suggested as a
lowly employee at the time when the first one blew a couple of caps
right off of it that he might want to check the power supply. As he was
"manager" and been there longer than me, he dismissed the advice and
wasted two more boards he didn't need to kill. The power supply was
putting out just under 38 volts on the 12volt rail. I'm sure you can
imagine the effects on a new board when he'd try to power them on. :)



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your Christ."  - author unknown.

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Yep, blasting caps.

(not acid core - whatever that means)

One time on a high power HF trsansmitter IPA stage, a tube shorted and
apparently put plate voltage on the control grid. Several capacitors
"blew" and spread foil and paper all over the unit. Really, it went off
like a barrel bomb.



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Given that you're talking about radio transmitters I'm surprised -- SHOCKED I
tell you -- that you don't know the reference.  Acid core refers to acid core
solder, which is the kind used on pipes.  Techs are not supposed to use acid
core on electronic circuits (it often voids the warrantee on components) but
are supposed to use rosin core solder instead.

That's Rule #1 in electronic tech....

Well, that and the notion that "black boys rape our young girls, but violet
gives willingly..." an unfortunately racist statement, but something else that
first-time electronic techs learn.


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| Given that you're talking about radio transmitters I'm surprised -- SHOCKED I
| tell you -- that you don't know the reference.  Acid core refers to acid core
| solder, which is the kind used on pipes.  Techs are not supposed to use acid
| core on electronic circuits (it often voids the warrantee on components) but
| are supposed to use rosin core solder instead.

| That's Rule #1 in electronic tech....

| Well, that and the notion that "black boys rape our young girls, but violet
| gives willingly..." an unfortunately racist statement, but something else that
| first-time electronic techs learn.

That version is DEFINITELY racist !
This is the PROPER version.

Bad  - Black
Boys  - Brown
Rape  - Red
Our   - Orange
Young  - Yellow
Girls  - Green
But  - Blue
Violet  - Violet
Goes  - Grey
Willingly  - White
Silver - 10%
Gold - 5%


Actually, in HF Radio you don't use Rosin core either.  You use Silver Solder.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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David H. Lipman wrote:
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The way we learned it back in the USAF electronics school of the early 60s
[Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls
But Violet Gives Willing Good Service]
Your colors are the same, just different mnemonics.  

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| David H. Lipman wrote:

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| The way we learned it back in the USAF electronics school of the early 60s
| [Bad Boys Rape Our Young Girls
| But Violet Gives Willing Good Service]
| Your colors are the same, just different mnemonics.

Air Force - LOL
That explains *much* !!!!

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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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Oh.. resistor reading.. Doh!


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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ."  - author unknown.

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The "black boys" version was done to differentiate between black and brown.  
It's a horrible phrase, but people remember their color codes.


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Horrible, but there's nothing particularly nice in the phrase about
raping young girls ... willing or not.

...but as you said, people remember through mnemonics.



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| Horrible, but there's nothing particularly nice in the phrase about
| raping young girls ... willing or not.

| ...but as you said, people remember through mnemonics.


It isn't politically correct - no.  But, it is memorable.

But I remember contoversy over male and female plugs and IDE Master-Slave
relationships.
Political Correctness - overkill.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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David H. Lipman wrote:
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Where master/slave orientation was determined by a 'jumper'?

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A jumper and possibly location on the IDE ribbon cable. As some could be
configured for cable select...
 



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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ."  - author unknown.

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LOL, so thats why Sata has no master or slave? :)
 



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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ."  - author unknown.

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| LOL, so thats why Sata has no master or slave? :)



Yeah, they also dropped the 'n'  :-)


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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No, of course not, but in those days (and my dad told me he'd first heard the
phrase during World War II radio duty) electronics was a man's game -- not
just a man's game, but a "man's man" game, not unlike car repair, boxing, or
icing.  


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sfdavidkaye2@yahoo.com (David Kaye) wrote in

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it's still an honored skillset, atleast, IMHO.


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"I like your Christ. I don't like your Christians. They are so unlike
your Christ."  - author unknown.

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I already knew about car repair and stuff, but icing was one of those male
rituals I just learned about.  Now I feel really really manly.


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Get - Gold 5%
Some - Silver 10%
Now - None >10%



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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No precision band usually indicated 20%, no?

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