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Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

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As to Trojan who able to go online,
and get a Virus for your Computer,
This is both and truly a Trojan Virus..

A Trojan is a Trojan,
A Virus is a Virus,
But a Trojan Virus start,
With a Trojan and End With a Virus..

If you stop the Trojan of the Trojan Virus,
it will not get a Virus for your Computer,
But if the Trojan go uncheck,
it will put a Virus on your Computer

So open your eye's,
and see the two parks of the Package,
A Trojan Virus is,
Park One A Computer Trojan..
Pack Two Online Virus...

But hackers are here at alt.comp.anti-virus,
who will say a Trojan Virus is not a Virus,
For hackers will lie, and will Not Tell The True.....  

Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom


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A trojan that that downloads other files, virus or otherwise, remains a
trojan downloader and does not make that downloader virus.

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That is NOT a foregone conclusion and is not a defacto condition nor any
part of the definition which separates the subclass of malware called
trojans and the subclass of malware called viruses.

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That makes no sense and are writing riddles.

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You are misguided and misunderstand the subject matter.  I strongly urge you
to educate yourself!



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Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

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For the Trojan download a Game it is a Trojan-Game,
Yes it will remains a Trojan and the Game will remains Game..
Removing the Trojan will not remove the Game,
nor Removing The Game will remove the Trojan,
For they became independent from or independent of oneself..
Same with a Trojan-Virus..
 
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Why do you separates the to two definition,
1+2=3
is not the two definition = a new definition
The same as for Trojan + Virus = Trojan Virus..


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No riddles but the true....


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Here I educate you...........

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Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom


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For the same reason a Ford is not a Toyota is not a Chrysler.  They are all
automobiles but are calssed differently based upon their manuafacturer.
There is no Ford Chrysler like there is no trojan virus.

The taxonomy of malware can be made into further subclasses like an
automobile;  Wagon, Coupe, Truck, Sedan, etc.

There are subclasses of trojans anbd there are subclasses of viruses.

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Still not making any sense and I am not going to waste my time trying to
educate you in an area you having trouble grasping like a grade schooler has
trouble grasping trigonmentry or algebra.


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More utter nonesense and shows a lack of understanding the subject matter!




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Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

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As you have Said:: so is a Trojan-Virus is
classed differently based upon their manufacturer thereof..

Like that of a The Ford Explorer Sport Trac,
also known just as the Ford Sport Trac,
is a mid-size sport utility vehicle,
is not a Ford Explorer that is a sport-utility vehicle,
Ford Sport Trac and Ford Explorer are sport-utility vehicle but not the same as..

So is it with a Trojan and a Trojan-Virus..

 
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classes is trojans + subclasses is viruses = Trojans-Viruses


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You a grade school name caller,
and the time you wasted was the time you have been out of school..


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No lack here, for I will hell you understanding the subject matter..

Win32/Agent.ONB  
is a Trojan that get a virus,
from online to built file into an mp3 player Rom..
 

Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

aloysiaochsenbein@yahoo.com has brought this to us :
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I bet the OP is glad he waited for this response. Now, he can go about
his other chores.

BTW, "trojan horse virus" is a misnomer. Sure, even the so-called
industry experts use the term, but they're wrong to do so.



Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

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"trojan horse virus" have two side to it,
Hackers call this Man in Trojan Horse,
and Industry only see one side.... No Trojan-Virus

It allows hack into a computer,
and get a virus to hide the hacks to a computer..

If you remove the Trojan first,
the virus rewrites Trojan in the computer system,
and if you remove the virus first,
the Trojan get a virus number 2,
remove virus number 2,
the Trojan get a virus number 3.

It will keep opening Gateways [PORT] and like port:80
until it get the right virus by numbers,
that your anti-virus know not and unable to remove,

for the Trojan job is to keep the virus working,
not Hacks..

For the Trojan have a list of IP to number's of viruses,
Like(viruse1.sys, viruses2.sys, viruse3.sys, exc,exc,exc...)  

Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

Hot-Text has brought this to us :
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Because whether or not a specific malicious program self-replicates is
a very important distinction to make. Sure, to the average Joe hacker
it might not be important and in casual dinner conversation nobody
really gives a shit.

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It matters not what the original malicious program brings to the table,
it only matters what *it* itself does. Classifying the other things it
brings later is a matter for when those programs are classified
(keylogger, virus, worm, backdoor, rootkit, appkiller etc...).

Initially, a trojan is just a program that does something (usually
undesired) other than or in addition to some thought to be desireable
function - and yes, viruses can be included generally under this
definition.

Generalities aren't helpful, so it becomes more important that you
separate self-replicators from non self-replicators since they present
such different obstacles to removal. Also it matters whether or not
'infection' is part of the self-replication process - this is why worms
are a different class from viruses.

One way to look at it is:

It's a trojan ... unless it self-replicates in which case it is a worm
or virus and no longer just a trojan. Follow this idea backward and you
get "trojans don't replicate". This is not the only taxonomy out there
as I suggested already in another post.

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You're not making any sense when you misuse the terminology. You seem
to be talking about a guardian program that re-writes a trojan if it
finds it missing - this is *not* self-replication - and it is ancillary
to the trojan being discussed - possibly associated malware.

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Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

"FromTheRafters"
you right you know

Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

Hot-Text laid this down on his screen :
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On another subject, you may find this interesting.
http://www.swansontec.com/sregisters.html



Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

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Good link,
you do know that why you see;;

; for 16-bit app support
in Win.ini and system.ini

As the another subject move to a newer format,
You may find this interesting
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< http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/ff431744.aspx >

Re: Win32/Agent.ONB Trojan virus built into an mp3 player rom

On Fri, 10 Aug 2012 15:33:55 -0500, Hot-Text wrote:

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In this newsgroup we have many defenses against computer worms, trojans,
and viruses. Sadly we are defenseless against trolls.

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