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Re: WiFi security issues? Newbie ? for W7

On 12/22/2010 7:00 AM, Wolf K wrote:
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You mean other solutions/services were hosted by the O/S. That's the
O/S's job is to host programs.

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On 22/12/2010 7:14 AM, Big Steel wrote:
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Yes. I thought (and still think) that OS/2's virtual network to host
another OS was very elegant. Warp I believe uses typical VM methods
instead. The virtual network method would allow hosting of as many OSs
as fit onto your HD, with minimal hassle, I think.

Have a cool one,
Wolf K.

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   Perhaps he has some experience doing it for thousands of users at once.

   That's where the rubber hits the road.

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   That just gets you the software running. This tells you nothing
about whether or not your "server" will be able to handle the number
of users you want to support with any degree of service quality or
the ability to actually stay online under load.

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   More than anything, a "server OS" is something that's not going to
get in the way of itself, or the programs running services and won't
allow the programs running services to get in the way of the OS either.
Then there's the whole scalability thing.

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This is, of course, the same, ignorant person who posted the
load of crap that he is reiterating above.

Sid



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at once.










to
either.

Yeah, school the turnip that just stepped off the turnip truck.  :)

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JEDIDIAH wrote:
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   No, that gets your server running.

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   Quality of service is not the question.

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   True 'servers' have little or no front-end, and no fluff. What the
confusion is about 'home file sharing' vs 'servers' I have no idea.

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   Sure it is. If the quality isn't good enough, then it's the same as
an outtage. This is why certain operating systems that don't need to be
named tend to be dumped in favor of more serious operating systems that
are built with "being a server" in mind.

   If it's just you in your basement, it doesn't matter so much.

   If you have any actual users, then it's another matter.

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on the "idea" and not the actual implementation.

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    Some people like to conflate desktop file sharing in Windows with
something that might actually require something resembling an SLA.

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any of the details of your patent then you have been granted a patent  / | \
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David H. Lipman wrote:
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   Just wondering, do you guys get dizzy?

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Norman
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AMD64X2 6400+ Ubuntu 8.04 64bit

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Back on the topic of why the wifi should be kept secure.
http://www.securityweek.com/man-pleads-guilty-hacking-neighbors-wireless-sending-threats-against-vice-president

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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On 12/21/2010 10:34 PM, David W. Hodgins wrote:
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That's why I would never open my wireless 3g hotspot on the Droid to
public access.

I was watching some show on TV, I can't remember the show, about the
security of networks in the home.

On router's the password was 'password' the number one usage. (cracked)

On WAP or WEP of any form the the number 1 key was '123456' in use.
(cracked)

My WAP2 key was 12345678, which I kind of expanded on the default out of
the box key. Of course, I changed the key to something else with letters
and numbers. :)


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On 21/12/2010 11:14 PM, Big Steel wrote:
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My ISP "gave" me a wi-fi router/modem, it came with a 256 bit key, which
I had to enter one sucking character at a time. Only made on mistake the
first time. ;-)

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On 12/22/2010 6:54 AM, Wolf K wrote:
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That is like buying some trial version of some software you downloaded.
Then you decide to purchase the software. They send you a license key
via email that you use to activate the software. I got caught with
having to enter all the characters for the software key manually a long
key, because the machine was not running email software where this
software was running.

The email was sent to another machine that had email and no USB hookup
or anything else could be used between the machines, a security thing on
the job.

I figured it out the next time and forward the email with the key to my
Gmail account and was able to copy/paste the key.

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On 22/12/2010 7:09 AM, Big Steel wrote:
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Not exactly. The security key is SOP for all new wi-fi router-modems for
this ISP. They ship it with the device, on paper. They've been calling
people to urge them to replace the wired router-modem with this one.
That's why it's "free" (ie, the cost is built into the service fee.)

They also run very good server-level spam/malware-filtering, as they
have understood that stopping spam at their server level increases
bandwidth for their customers. So does prevention of zombified
computers. All in all, we average less than one spam mail per day, on
five different addresses. There's far more spam on the news groups. <g>

HTH
Wolf K.

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On 12/22/2010 8:49 AM, Wolf K wrote:
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My post was in regard to you typing a long key. I have had to do the
same type in a long key, which I hate to do.

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On 22/12/2010 8:56 AM, Big Steel wrote:
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Commiseration. ;-)

Wolf K.

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 22:34:28 -0500, David W. Hodgins wrote:

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http://www.securityweek.com/man-pleads-guilty-hacking-neighbors-wireless-sending-threats-against-vice-president
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Wow. Quite the neighborly fellow...

Now I guess I should read the addendum about his relationship with his
neighbor, to see if I need to worry around here (I don't think I do).

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On 12/21/2010 11:26 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
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<http://www.itnews.com.au/News/174895,german-man-fined-for-poor-wi-fi-security.aspx

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On Tue, 21 Dec 2010 23:32:59 -0500, Steel wrote:

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<http://www.itnews.com.au/News/174895,german-man-fined-for-poor-wi-fi-security.aspx

Yes, but
"British intellectual property barrister David Harris described the
verdict as 'eccentric' and unlikely in other jurisdictions".

So I'm safe.

I'm just playing - my remark is not meant to be taken seriously or
analyzed for logic :-)

But the article Dave Hodges quoted and the article linked to in the
first article are very scary, IMO.

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On 12/21/2010 11:41 PM, Gene E. Bloch wrote:
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Do you have $164 in finds you want to pay out in this situation? That's
like saying you brought a car from a private owner, the car had numerous
unpaid parking tickets, and you the buyer have to pay the tickets. :)

What if a bank was robbed, and you were left holding the bag? :)


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