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Re: WiFi security issues? Newbie ? for W7

On Dec 26, 5:02=A0am, Steel <""Fake99XX1199999fake\"@(Big)
(Steel)theXfactor.com"> wrote:

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Wow, good post.  Steel is holding court, schooling these Linux
freaks!  Way to go Steel, I learn a lot from your posts.

RL

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On Sun, 26 Dec 2010 14:58:36 -0800 (PST), RayLopez99

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Here's another laughable example from the archives of how to waste
your time and money. It's one of my favourites from D. lol.

http://tinyurl.com/3ym7lr6
http://preview.tinyurl.com/3ym7lr6


Jim

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On 12/28/2010 6:06 AM, James Egan wrote:

<snipped your babble I didn't read it>

<yawn>

See ya (chasing clown) I wouldn't want to be ya.

bye

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@mid.individual.net:

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That's really sad. I know best buy grade techs who are a little brighter.
<G>


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I fooled around with it a few years ago too - trying to get a
Tivo-On-Steroids app called "MythTV" working.

Finally ponied up eighty bucks for a commercial app called
"SageTV" and haven't looked back.

My impression was that Linux is pretty good for somebody who
wants to minimize their cash outlay *and* who is either an
enthusiast or has an enthusiast to set up their system and answer
questions.  

I'd think it is an especially good fit for the thousands (?) of
people who use their PCs only for web browsing, email, the
occasional "Word" type document, and lightweight spreadsheets.

The downside being that they can't go to their friends and
neighbors with questions...

The price is definitely right.

But I was not in either category and my take is that if I had
worked at Burger King for minimum wage for the hours and hours I
spent trying to get things working I could have bought a very
nice ready-to-go Windows PC with MS Office installed and had
money left over.
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    I have a copy of MCE that I could put on every HTPC I own.

    I don't because it would not be as useful to me as even a
stock install of MythTV. SageTV and MCE both have pretty weak
media handling and presentation features. It's rather shocking
how weak they both are considering their commercial products
(one of them from the big bad monopoly).

    The same goes for Apple and Front Row.

    Not running Windows won't change the basic hardware requirements.

    So the "money saving" idea is pretty absurd.

    It's just another iteration of the false characterization of Linux
users as seeking something that is free rather than something that is
better.

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   If "office" is your view of things then there is nothing keeping
you from just doing that with ANY OS, Linux included.

   Now stuff like HTPC software is much more interesting and infact it
is the Free Software stuff that leads that category. It also helps along
the commercial products by giving them a wider degree of utility.

   Pretty much anyone even considering an HTPC is a demanding enthusiast.

   Otherwise they would just use one of the many plentiful appliances.

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On 12/22/2010 9:42 AM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
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I had Linux on my home network and Windows machines too. I had a print
server on the network, which was not a problem setting up with the
Windows machines. The Linux machine was a nightmare in trying to set it
up to use the print server. There was no help in any of the fourms, and
I would have had to pay Novell for Suse support.

The machine with Linux sat there and collected dust, if I couldn't print
to the print server with ease, I had no use for it.

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As much as I dis Linux, I have to remind myself that it's
nonetheless a freakin' miracle.

I know that I don't even have a clue as to how complicated an OS
really is.... but even at the level of complexity I can
comprehend it is truly impressive that hundreds (or maybe
thousands) of people can get together, coordinate their work, and
produce/maintain something like Linux.  

Truly impressive IMHO.

But I still couldn't get MythTV to work.... and when I installed
SageTV on my XP box, it was basically plug-and-play all the
way.... -)
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Well said.


That's really more M$'s fault. It uses its incredible economic
and political power to keep hardware manufacturers from writing
Linux drivers. Or releasing the relevant specs to Linux coders.

Sid



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...yes. So complicated what with it's dialog boxes and whatnot.

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   There is nothing complicated about getting a modern Linux to
talk to a network printer.

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For you, an "enthusiast" maybe. But for the rest of us--college
educated, doctors, rocket scientists, IQs of 140 and above,
millionaires--and I count myself as all of the above--the rest of us
could not get Linux to work right.

But for you...Linux is perfect and "just works".  Good luck with it.

Happy Xmas,

RL

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On 12/23/2010 8:32 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
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A workstation or server O/S I am not impressed with no matter who the
vendor is, since I have been in IT since 1971 seen it and done it all,
and I am still going strong.

I am impressed with my Droid by HTC. It can do everything my laptop can
do from personal usage standpoint office solutions, email solutions
going to Web sites to do business with its browser over HTTPS, being a
3g hotspot that I use my laptop on the wireless with to connect
wirelessly, sharing file and more - all of it can be done on the
smartphone. It's a laptop in my pocket.

Now they are coming out with dual core smartphones.

<http://www.engadget.com/2010/12/23/lg-optimus-2x-dual-core-android-phone-hits-europe-in-january-pe/

I like the Windows 7 phone too and plan on getting one.

These phones have more power and storage than the IBM mainframes I first
started working on in the 70's that took up an entire room.

All of that stuff you are talking about above there, it can be done with
a smartphone -- believe me with Android, Win 7 Phone, IPad or Blackberry.

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On 24/12/10 02:32, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
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MythTV is quite a challenge to configure.  Give XBMC a try and see if it
works for you.


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   The challenging part of MythTV is the recorder configuration and all
of the fiddly bits that can go with it including things that aren't
really software issues. Even a Tivo is fiddly in this respect.

   XBMC doesn't have that feature. So it doesn't have the bother that
comes with it.

   As far as a pure media player, XBMC wipes the floor with everything
else. SageTV and MythTV included.

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Per JEDIDIAH:
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I skimmed the XBMC docs and was unable to find anything about
recording TV programs.

Some kind of add-in?   Or did I just miss it?

Also, does XBMC work with media extenders?    Something I like
about SageTV is the little black box that sits under my TVs in
place of a PC: no moving parts, draws about 6 watts, works from
remote locations too.
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   XBMC has a MythTV plugin but it doesn't do any PVR functions on it's own.

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On 25/12/2010 22:47, JEDIDIAH wrote:
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I haven't looked at doing any recording.  I get my TV via fibre and a
PVR from the fibre company, so I haven't much need for additional
recording facilities.  Recording to a PC would give me more disk space,
but it wouldn't give me more time to watch the old programs!


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Per David Brown:
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I went to SageTV, which does what I want to do.   It's not
perfect, but it's good enough.

I suspect my main problem with Myth was SQL Anywhere security.
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Big Steel wrote:
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How odd.

I have found it the other way around. Of course if the print server was
talking smb, its pretty useless on Linux.

It can be made to work tho.

If you have a HP jet direct protocol or LPD on the server though, its a
piece of cake.

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    Since Linux and MacOS use the same printing mechanism now, it's really
quite odd that it would be a problem for anyone anymore.

    OTOH, Windows 7 doesn't want to play nice with Linux samba shares that
worked perfectly well under XP. I've also seen comparable complaints from
friends that are Windows users and have added a new Vista or Win7 box to
a household that has old XP boxes. The new Windows doesn't play nice.

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    I found that my network printer worked more reliably in Linux and that
even Windows machines printed more reliably when they were going through
samba rather than trying to connect to the printer directly.

    Then there's my all time favorite shenanigan from HP. The Windows drivers
for my all-in-one completely disallows using it as a network printer. So I
can't have it sit next to one machine in one room and allow it to be used
across the network (just as a printer) but another Windows machine in another
room.

    Macs don't have that problem though. They will happily print to this
all-in-one across the network.

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