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Hi,

My computer (Pentium II, Win98) started taking a REALLY long time to
boot up and to load programs. The hard drive continually whirs as if
it's loading stuff. Eventually, programs load, but what used to take a
few seconds now takes 10 minutes or so.

Anyway, I ran Norton Anti-Virus and it reported finding two items:
"lofE385.TMP", which it indicated was a Trojan Horse and which it
quarantined, along with "brE3B4.exe", which it associated with
"Spylocked" and which it deleted.

I also ran SpyDoctor, which reported fixing 83 adware or whatever
items (including SpyLocked).

-- neither program fixed the problem. The computer continues to whir,
the hour glass pops up rather frequently, and it just seems to be
taking forever to load stuff. The video display also takes a long time
to paint new screens. (Hope this makes sense). After about 30 minutes,
the computer stops whirring but will start again if I try to do
something.

I could not find either of the viruses supposedly found by Norton
("lofE385.TMP" or "brE3B4.exe"),  listed on Symantec's website; nor
was there anything when I googled the two names.

Questions:
1. Has anyone heard of these two viruses?
2. Why would the Norton Anti-Virus program find them, but they not be
listed on Symantec's website?
3. What's my next step?

Thank you.


Re: unknown virus

Got a virus, not spyware or whatever, a virus. Comes up as name unknown
when I do a virus check, and cannot disinfect, so deletes it. No probs.
About 10 minutes later I get a warning that it's come back, and I
have to do it again. When I delete it, a file appears in my recycle
bin. From memory, when I don't empty recycle bin it doesn't come
back - when I empty it, the virus appears again. Location is D drive
(second hard drive) Any ideas?


Re: unknown virus

On 5 Sep 2006 02:09:48 -0700, in alt.comp.anti-virus, "kempo"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

 ... Got a virus, not spyware or whatever, a virus. Comes up as name unknown
 ... when I do a virus check, and cannot disinfect, so deletes it. No probs.
 ... About 10 minutes later I get a warning that it's come back, and I
 ... have to do it again. When I delete it, a file appears in my recycle
 ... bin. From memory, when I don't empty recycle bin it doesn't come
 ... back - when I empty it, the virus appears again. Location is D drive
 ... (second hard drive) Any ideas?

Which AV are you using?


Re: unknown virus

what do you mean by AV? sorry i'm not that technical. do you mean
audio-visual?


Re: unknown virus

On 5 Sep 2006 02:21:00 -0700, in alt.comp.anti-virus, "kempo"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

 ... what do you mean by AV? sorry i'm not that technical. do you mean
 ... audio-visual?

We are talking about a virus here, right?? You don't need to be any "technical"
to
understand what AV is.


Re: unknown virus

ah anti-virus software - just clicked! sorry - i dont use these groups
very often so not upto date with acronyms etc.

it's one that came with my broadband provider.


Re: unknown virus

On 5 Sep 2006 02:33:55 -0700, in alt.comp.anti-virus, "kempo"
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

 ... ah anti-virus software - just clicked! sorry - i dont use these groups
 ... very often so not upto date with acronyms etc.
 ...
 ... it's one that came with my broadband provider.

Time to get a better one, don't you think? Try Avast, it's free. And check your
system
with A-Squared while you are at it - the free version is quite good.


Re: unknown virus


| ah anti-virus software - just clicked! sorry - i dont use these groups
| very often so not upto date with acronyms etc.
|
| it's one that came with my broadband provider.

Please be more specific.
Is it BullDog ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: unknown virus

Magda wrote:
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Jeeze its 5:30 AM maybe the OP needs some coffee:-))

Lou

Re: unknown virus

On Tue, 05 Sep 2006 09:40:12 GMT, in alt.comp.anti-virus, Lou
arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:

 ... Magda wrote:
 ... > On 5 Sep 2006 02:21:00 -0700, in alt.comp.anti-virus, "kempo"
 ... > arranged some electrons, so they looked like this:
 ... >
 ... >  ... what do you mean by AV? sorry i'm not that technical. do you mean
 ... >  ... audio-visual?
 ... >
 ... > We are talking about a virus here, right?? You don't need to be any
"technical" to
 ... > understand what AV is.
 ... >
 ... Jeeze its 5:30 AM maybe the OP needs some coffee:-))

More like chamomile! Having a virus is nerve-racking. ;)


Re: unknown virus

kempo wrote:
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I think it's time for you to bite the bullet and realise it's going to
cost you time and money to clean your system and keep it safe. As follows.

a) Make sure the anti-virus utility that came with your machine and/or
internet service is up to date. Pay the yearly subscription fee for
updates! It's cheap insurance.

b) Get at least one other AV (anti-virus) utility.

c) Set your primary AV utility to scan at least once a day, say at
4:25am. If you turn off your computer overnight, turn it on first thing
in the morning - the scan will run while you have your breakfast.

d) Run the secondary AV utility at least once a week.

e) Update both utilities as often as possible. If you got "free for
personal use" versions, you will probably have to do this manually. If
you paid, you can set the programs to update automatically.

f) Face the fact that computers are not yet "buy and use" appliances.
They take a fair amount of technical knowledge to use and maintain
properly and safely. Either learn, or pay a tech for regular
maintenance. You take your in for regular maintenance, right? Do the
same for your computer.

g) Develop a healthy paranoia about computer security. :-)

HTH

Re: unknown virus

Goto this MS-MVP website: http://www.grystmill.com/ and follow the advice
religiously. You will need to printout the instructions since it will
require you to perform these procedures offline. Then do antivirus and
antispyware and maintenance applications. You will be in another world that
is "pristine and clean". Then check Symantec manuel removal instructions for
Trojan if the problem still exists. You also might consider performing a
HiJackThis log and posting to a website that will help you:
http://aumha.net/viewforum.php?f=30 Good Luck!
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