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LOL....   I'm in Texas (the good half), and just returned from OKC, you're
right.




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Well, if you see Brenda.... tell her "fuck you" for me please.


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ROFLOL   there's more than one Brenda here... you could always take out an
add on a billboard.
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Jenn (from Oklahoma)
http://pqlr.org/bbs/



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I'm never going back to that hell-hole again.  People for the most part are
rude.  In Texas we acknowledge strangers with a "howdy", or "hi", or "what's
up", ..."how's it going"??

When I was there for 3 awful months, they all looked at me like I was crazy when
I was displaying some southern hospitality.  Plus, I had a Texas tag, and was
always being told how much Texas suck compared to OSU   (I could really care
less), we have and NFL team with a brand new station, if I wanted to match my
rivals against Houston, I would just buy a damn ticket.  There all so damn mad
at Texas for some reason.

Another thing, your exit and entry ramps are so small it's amazing there is not
a daily death trying to get onto I-44, I-40, I-35  etc....  What, was concrete
too expensive for the "Okies" to build a ramp with an acceleration lane?  It's
like you make a giant circle once on the ramp, then  --BOOOM-- you're right
there in the right freeway lane, nowhere close to highway speeds.

Maybe I'm spoiled, because despite occasional traffic/or construction lanes, our
Highways here in Houston, (more impressive are the ones in Austin, and Dallas
still needs a little more work) are smooth sailing.... Here's a live pic of the
newly redone Katy freeway :
http://www.houstontranstar.org/snapshots/cctv/324.jpg

IN fact you can see all of Houston's highways 24/7 live here:
http://traffic.houstontranstar.org/cctv/transtar /

Anyhow,

See lives in Newalla -- (does that narrow it down)?

If you can't find her, I'll just email our new song....


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=atBg9zLI2bA


(everybody needs to see this, it's rofl lultz)





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I find the effort to be futile. BD is like the check engine light on your
car. Ignoring it isn't going to make the problem go away.


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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I shall correct you ... Jenn doesn't *pop up* anywhere ... I gracefully
click on a newsgroup title and peruse the threads one by one........ ;-)
--
Jenn (from Oklahoma)
http://pqlr.org/bbs/



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Honestly, I think he would continue posting more conspiracy theories here;
even if nobody responded. He might even take the lack of response as
indictive that he is correct in his illusions, resulting in even more 'I've
proven it' posts.


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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You too might find life more enjoyable if you lost the everyone might be
out to get me mentality. I'm sure it would bring you far less stress to
worry so much about the bad guys.
 
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Aren't you deliberatly offending to get a reaction?
 
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I had a very enjoyable day, thanks.

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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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_oWdnRiF_bM2hEPWnZ2dnUVZ8madnZ2d@bt.com:

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programme
FTR!
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speed
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Not that I know of; re: company organization which does random audits
(checks if you prefer). However, if aumha.net or another company were to
do such things, news would spread.

Ya see BD, at some point, a professional will checkout the site; and upon
the company doing something nasty, eventually they'd be caught and surely
publically humiliated.

You just can't get away with dropping nasty code on peoples machine;
eventually the cat will be out of the bag. You never know what person may
visit the site and you can't always determine the persons skilllevel.

So your theories really have no basis in the real world. It's just not
possible for someone to dupe everyone, BD.

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And again, such tactics would eventually land on the wrong machine. Say,
mine for example. My curosity would force me to go digging and
eventually, I *would* find the modifications. Many other experts would as
well. A blog site would appear, further experts would examine the site
mentioned and it would just go south for the site/software owner/creator
from that point on.

In a way, checks and balances which is what you seem concerned with do
take place on a daily basis.


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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Dustin Cook wrote:

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Now *that* is exactly what I tried to encourage you to do, Dustin!

In particular at Annex.com and Dogagent.com

Aumha.net? I'm unsure - but Robear Dyer *has* lied.

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I can hope for nothing more than that someone *will* take an interest
and investigate. Most folk are too busy to do as I have done for well
over four years now. I've never professed to know much about computers
but I do have an ability to sense when things do not ring true.

 > In a way, checks and balances which is what you seem concerned with do
 > take place on a daily basis.

I'm sure you are right but it seems that such checks and balances are
woefully inadequate. The bad guys are winning and cybercrime is still
escalating. You saw for yourself, with the recent Times Square incident,
that the terrorist threat is still with us. I'd bet next weeks pension
that at least a proportion of money stolen on the Internet is directed
to fund such activity. I don't like that.

Just like the Somali pirates, the Internet bad guys *must* be stopped.

FWIW

--
Dave

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Say,

You have no need to encourage me to do what I would do naturally anyway.
What you asked me to do was get dirt on people you have a personal grudge
with; and I will not do that for you.
 
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Your senses are in need of recalibration.

The sites you mention have been around for sometime; I'm sure if they
were upto no good, someone would have noticed it and been able to
demonstrate it to the security community; I am unaware of any of that
having taken place.
 
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I disagree. They quickly caught your newly fake account at malwarebytes.
No sir, they are on the ball.

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Dave, with all due respect, hell will freeze over before you stop a
single internet bad guy. I say this because you have no clue who are the
good or bad guys and your efforts of PI work are failing miserably.

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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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wrote this:

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Tharrrr he goes trolling along with his cock in  hand and not
a coherent thought in his head to speak of....
Is this the case..I ask myself.

Griffin.

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You may wish to submit it's executables to http://www.virustotal.com
 
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Not that I know of, no.
 
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Again, not that I specifically know of.
 
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BugHunter did detect atleast one variant of spectorsoftpro. You may give it
a try...
http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
 
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your welcome.


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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Thanks, I'm afraid to re-install it right now.  I'll wait till it's time to
flatten the OS again.


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Have you considered a free vm software package? You can load your flavor of
windows right into it, apps as well; and they won't hurt your computer
outside of the VM if things go south. Granted, for the purists I do have to
say atleast one known VM aware malware sample exists. It causes the VM to
crash when discovered tho.

Microsofts virtualPC comes to mind, along with suns virtualbox.
virtualbox looked slightly more.. cartoony I guess you could say, than
virtualpc.


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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I'm going to rephrase my question.

Why wouldn't the author's of Super ASW and MBAM not include commercial key
loggers in their detections?  It doesn't matter if you bought the spyware in a
nice package at Fry's, or downloaded it from any number of free sources.

Key loggers are Spyware, period.  I can't leave a customer's house after
scanning with Avira, MBAM, and Super ASW --- knowing that none of them detects
this "greyware".  <--- Which I have a problem with that term.

Forget what I said about my g/f.  That was just theoretical.  I'm talking about
working on other's PC's now.

Why do commercial vendors get a "pass", when script kiddies and other a$$holes
that write Trojans for "fun" don't?

I'll join the forum and see what happens.  But, my strong opinion as a
technician, the tools I use to must be 100% dead-on.  Spyware is spyware, no
matter what spin you put on it (PUP, Greyware) whatever....  Just because it
comes in shrink wrapped box doesn't mean it's not spyware.






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| I'm going to rephrase my question.

| Why wouldn't the author's of Super ASW and MBAM not include commercial key
| loggers in their detections?  It doesn't matter if you bought the spyware in a
| nice package at Fry's, or downloaded it from any number of free sources.

| Key loggers are Spyware, period.  I can't leave a customer's house after
| scanning with Avira, MBAM, and Super ASW --- knowing that none of them detects
| this "greyware".  <--- Which I have a problem with that term.

| Forget what I said about my g/f.  That was just theoretical.  I'm talking about
| working on other's PC's now.

| Why do commercial vendors get a "pass", when script kiddies and other a$$holes
| that write Trojans for "fun" don't?

| I'll join the forum and see what happens.  But, my strong opinion as a
| technician, the tools I use to must be 100% dead-on.  Spyware is spyware, no
| matter what spin you put on it (PUP, Greyware) whatever....  Just because it
| comes in shrink wrapped box doesn't mean it's not spyware.

Yes, please do join the forum for the product and ask.






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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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Chances are, they will. Didn't Dustin invite you to upload the
executable? Sometimes all that is needed is an MD5 on non-polymorphics.

It would make sense for anti-spyware applications to have the ability to
detect PUPs. It would also be necessary to give the administrator the
ability to exclude the legitimately installed spyware from detection as
it's legitimate use would require. Windows in particular has parental
control (spyware) - would you want children to be able to detect and
possibly thwart its use?

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Because in some cases there is *no* difference, programmatically,
between the legitimate and the malicious spyware once it is installed.
The same goes for RATs - which can be described both as Remote Access
Trojan *and* Remote Administration Tool. The key difference is *how* it
becomes installed.

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Use a process viewer and familiarize yourself with what *should* be
there. Chances are you will not have husbands spying on wives and vice
versa, but admins spying on standard users. If the spyware hides from
the administrator, it is *malware*, not greyware, and should be detected
by antimalware applications.






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It matters. It's a greyarea. Legimitate reasons exist for the commercial
packages. One being, monitoring of employees using company/network
equipment.
 
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As I said, it's a greyarea. Potentially unwanted software, depending on
the conditions of it's installation.

If you want them to take a look, provide the installer executable so that
a proper analysis can be performed.
 
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They don't get a pass per say. It depends on whether or not the employer
set the software up. If that's the case, the user has no right to
discover that spyware.
 
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I'm a technician by trade as well, along with antimalware researcher; and
sadly, whether you like the term or not doesn't matter. It exists and
applies in some cases. As far as tools being 100%, as an author of one
myself, and fellow researcher for another, that's just not possible.
Sorry.
 


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"Hrrngh! Someday I'm going to hurl this...er...roll this...hrrngh.. nudge
this boulder right down a cliff." - Goblin Warrior


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