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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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Oh, he did that awhile ago. I've been reading this long ass thread.. and
when I saw he claimed he was a coder.. (of some sort I guess), and that
the SQL injection was ancient history, I already decided he had to be a
troll. Or, he's just starting to learn to code in a college...?


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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



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Yes, you're right.  I'm a modern coder, so for me, who knows how to
use the Visual Studio .NET framework, SQL injection attacks are
ancient history, correct.

Switch to .NET and join the fun Dustin.  What are you, coding in C
still?

RL

Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



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@z4g2000yqa.googlegroups.com>, raylopez88@gmail.com says...
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You're funny - we were teaching MS Regional office people how to code in=20
.Net before it was released to the public - so you're about 9 years=20
behind the ball.



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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



RayLopez99 wrote:
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Silly boy! Badly written stored procedures are just as vulnerable to SQL
injections as any other SQL code.

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Great, that will stop SQL injections ... NOT!

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Only scientists? Are you really this clueless?!

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You switched to C# because C++ has no eye candy? LOL!

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Separation of core logic and presentation is nothing new and definitely was
not pioneered in, or is exclusive to XAML.

Regards.


Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



bughunter.dustin@gmail.com says...
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LOL, we still see SQL compromised machines - what I can't believe is
that people still connect their computers directly to the internet
without any NAT/Firewall device at all.

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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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Believe it. I did a service call this afternoon, modern cable modem
install. The customer declined (yep!) the free router included and opted
to plug directly into the cable modem via USB instead of the NIC card.
The customer contacted me due to a "virus" issue they sustained about 3
hours after going online.

It was a bootlegged windows XP pro system with no service pack; and this
is the funniest part, actually using the original blacklisted key; which
is why it had no service packs....Plugged directly into the cable modem,
bypassing any benefits the router would have offered them (they're
rebranded linksys routers), slower speed, and a nice antivirus2010XP
infection.

I removed the problem, fixed the system up as best as I could; and
explained how to keep himself a little safer. As the customer is
unwilling to obtain a legitimate copy of windows, I explained that either
myself would be back or you'd be calling another person, but either way,
your going to pay for the problems of a non updatable copy of windows.


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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



bughunter.dustin@gmail.com says...
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If I have serious reason to believe a computer is using pirated software
I won't touch it - I provide a signed statement of the work we do,
including anything we suggest, it would leave us liable in the case of
an audit.

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Well you're too cautious.  My Vista machine is using what is probably
pirated software in the OS (Vista Ultimate), I would imagine, since it
cost $5 in Bangkok to buy.  But it was shrinkwrapped and bought from
an indoor store, not from a vendor in the street (and that's my
defense).  But insofar as I can tell, and I've had it several years,
no viruses were in it and nobody else has my personal information--if
they did they would have struck by now.  Same goes for most of my
other software.  Then these Linux advocates have the GALL to claim
that "Linux is cheaper".  Balderdash!

RL

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In article <5b8b54da-296b-4f20-9259-
3f6a4935b58c@n39g2000prj.googlegroups.com>, trigonometry1972@gmail.com
says...
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But that's not the same - I would install nix too, but not reinstall a
pirated copy of XP/Win.



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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 00:25:29 GMT, Dustin Cook

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I've seen more than my share of non-legitimate XP installations, but
I've never seen one that wasn't updatable via Service Packs and
security patches. If the system wasn't able to be updated, I doubt it
was because of the license status.


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Sigh, sorry jack.. No cigar for you. It's a known fact (look it up!) that
certain VLK keys (which is what it actually is) are infact, blacklisted
and you cannot apply a later service pack which is aware of the key  if
your using one. Any, servicepacks that is which are aware of the
blacklisted key. As the original SP1 is no longer available (it's 1a now)
that includes.. well, all of them.

Essentially, any system that informs you it's counterfeit may or may not
allow you to reinstall; say.. SP3. Sadly tho, this guy as I said used the
original bad boy VLK key which started it all. Service packs since v1a
know this key and will not allow you to install them. In fact, your shown
a nice screen about the disadvantages of pirating software and offered
ways to contact microsoft to resolve this issue.

Resolving means, reinstalling Windows; as you have a VLK edition and
short of having done the VLK licensing, you aren't supposed to have this
version. The VLK windows are not OEM nor are they retail...

They are a modified OEM, with a specialized key which does not ever
require activation. It's to make life easier for some...






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Just curious, but what is your hourly rate or do you get paid by the
job?

And I'm sure you would be a perfect witness on the stand if I were
trying to prove that it's not Windows but the user who is at fault in
nearly any security breach.  SAVE for Zero-Day attacks, which cannot
be prevented by definition (not even in Linux I would imagine), it
seems Windows machines get infected by users who don't have the proper
security on their machines, as documented by Belarc for example.

BTW, anybody follow all the Safe Hex recommendations of Belarc
Advisors?  I think there are too many.  I usually score 2 or 3 stars
out of five, but even so I've never had a virus problem.

RL

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RayLopez99 wrote:
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The same here, Belarc is trying to sell something, or they try to
tell you that you should be behind a corporate net, with all permissions
denied and blocked......

Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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I charge by the job. This allows me to be competitive with everyone else
and not overcharge people who really can't afford the repairs but need them
done anyhow.

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In many cases, it's the user yes.



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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



bughunter.dustin@gmail.com says...
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Please provide a link other than Wikipedia.  I've searched for this
activation issue with sp3 and can only find the Wikipedia link.  Can't
find any mention of it on Microsoft Support or anywhere else.  As Char
Jackson stated, updates are still allowed even if WGA fails and this is
the first I've heard of service packs not being allowed.

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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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*sigh*. This is really easy, I've provided a primary google link; and
then I followed it up with the wikipedia link. I went so far as to
provide the first 5 characters of the infamous blacklisted key. I can do
no more homework for you or anyone else.

If you or anyone else here honestly didn't know about this problem, you
do now. If you still think it's untrue, go fetch the key FCKGW change one
of the VLK machines to this key and try loading a service pack... :)


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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



bughunter.dustin@gmail.com says...
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Ok, I'm curious enough to want to give this a try, though all my
machines are up to date so in order to test this I'm going to have to do
a fresh install on a new HD.  Just need to clear some things up though.
Once XP is installed, using the key you mentioned (ends in 2B7Q8, yes?),
will sp2 or sp3 fail to install immediately after fresh install, or will
I have to update this machine with the various updates first, including
the WGA update?  Don't want to spend over an hour on this only to find I
need to do it again correctly.

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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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Load the virgin OS with that key and try loading sp2 or 3; either is fine  
as both will tell you to go away..

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No, it'll bitch when you try loading a service pack.
 



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Side note, if you don't want to deal with the reformat option after you
get the results; just change the KEY from the bad one back to a good one
and proceed with your service pack install. At that point the system
itself isn't tagged or anything, it just won't accept a service pack with
that particular key (roughly.. 20 or so keys I know of are in it's list).


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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?



bughunter.dustin@gmail.com says...
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Cheers Dustin, will give this a try over the weekend.  Nothing better
than personal experience. ;-)

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