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Re: Seriously, has anybody ever seen a serious virus problem in Windows when using AV protection?




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I've seen finals in CB radios do it too, but that was usually do to
extensive usage and cold solder points to begin with.
 



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From the keyboard of the world's leading googler who's been there and
done that before everyone else.

lol


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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 00:35:32 GMT, Dustin Cook

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Way too touchy, raidy.

If his aim was to diss you he would have done it in the thread about
mac address encryption in wep not so long ago so I can't think why
you suddenly think he's got it in for you now.


Jim.


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Can you guys just get a room or something :-)

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On 3/24/2010 7:48 AM, Leythos wrote:

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You mean if I actually use my tires for stop and go traffic that they
may wear out sooner than if I hypothetically drove and drove and never
stopped?  Hmm!  That's interesting!

But wouldn't I use more gas if I never stopped?  Gotta admit there is
something to that.

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philnblanc@comcast.net says...
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In my case, the cost of running the workstations for 16 hours a day and
shutting them off, vs running them 16 hours a day and then letting the
monitor sleep, the Hard-Drives sleep after 1 hour of non-use, the CPU
throttle down, etc... is negligible.

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That's what I consider to be... common sense, but as you point out, You
probably won't know this if you haven't been a geek at some point. :)


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philnblanc@comcast.net says...
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You mean like maintenance that happens after the users are done using
the computer?

You mean like AV scans that happen at night so that they don't impact
the user during the normal use hours?

You mean like windows updates between 3AM and 4AM?

You mean like remotely connecting to the computer to work?

In 30+ years of working with computers I've had exactly 1 malware on a
computer I own/control and my own computers as well as most of the
computers at our customers sites run 24/7.

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On 3/24/2010 7:46 AM, Leythos wrote:
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Yes those are all good reasons.

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Leythos wrote:
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Hell would freeze over before I allowed MS to install updates on my PC in my
absence. As many here surely know, not /all/ MS updates are safe or even
neecessary for all Windows PC's. It can doenload them in the night (if I
leave my PC on), but it will install them when I've seen what it wants to
install.
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steve.houghREMOVE@THISblueyonder.co.uk says...
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That's fine for you, but, since we mostly do BUSINESS systems, those
updates have caused exactly 2 problems impacting about 30 out of
thousands of machines we monitor and support.

While a residential user might, if they are somewhat technical in
nature, be able to manually update, for MOST people, they don't have a
clue and the benefits far outweigh the impact of NOT updating
automatically.

I have two workstations that are set for automatic updates, here in my
office, they have been running for 3 years without a failure and without
needing to be rebuilt - XP machines on a domain. My mother inlaw has a
Dell Dim 2400, bought when the 2400 was new (that was a LONG TIME AGO)
and it's set for automatic updates also - never had a problem.

Almost all of the automatic updates have to do with users having
compromised system or crappy drivers for crappy hardware.

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Leythos wrote:
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Well as you don't know what I do and don't do, that's a stupid statement. I
may have mentioned /my/ PC, but you don't know what I do the rest of the
time, so no need to get cocky with yer 'we mostly do business' - I couldn't
give a toss what you do.

As it happens, most of the fixes (apart from hardware) I do for people are
either malware or crappy/incompatible windows updates.

Thinking about it, some of you folks out of the AV group are belligerent
little buggers aint'cha?

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steve.houghREMOVE@THISblueyonder.co.uk says...
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You seem to have perfectly described yourself.

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On 3/24/2010 5:23 PM, SteveH wrote:
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I am with you on that.

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Yes.  I had to clean up a Windows laptop last year despite things
being kept up to date and AV installed.  The AV was bloody hopeless at
setecting it despite being kept up to date.



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OK fine.  Outlier.  One in a million I would reckon.

Tell us what virus it was, as that info should not be confidential.
Unless it was so obscure that only one user, your client, had it.

Anybody else?

RL

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Are you fer real?

NO commercial AV product stops all viruses/malware. I doubt a month goes by
where I'm not cleaning one nasty or another off of my Windows PC. And if its
not mine, I'm doing about two a month from other people.
And my PC has Kaspersky Internet Security, an I regularly run Malwarebytes,
Superantispyware, Spybot and Crap Cleaner. And once a month it gets an
additional scan with the GMER rootkit scanner.
It depends entirely on what you use yer PC for, what websites you visit etc.

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That sounds outlandish to me too.  Must be doing some things wrong.  The
only time I ever got a virus on one of my windows PCs was back when I had
win3.11 and got some fonts off of a shareware CD.  The version of Norton I
had at the time found it and cleaned it fine.  I have never had any of my
personal PCs infected since.  Of course I have run Linux since '98 on my
primary workstation.  Although, I always have some win PCs around as well
and use windows at work.

BB

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Thanks BB.  This sounds believable.  I have no doubt that Linux has
fewer viruses than Windows, any way you count it (by number or by
percent of programs), but that's only IMO due to Linux's smaller
market share.

But so far nobody has proved that viruses are a serious problem in
Windows.

RL


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The serious problem I see in regard to viruses in Windows is USERS!  'nuff
said!  Those same LAZY users would not enjoy Linux one bit.  But, like I
said, it pays the rent!

BB

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