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I am in the process of evaluating Win 7 on a slightly older laptop I own
before I buy the program.  In addition to updating Win 7, I'll be visiting
various sites obtaining trials of updated software that I commonly used on
my former Win XP system.

To make  a long story short, I need a decent free virus scanner and I also
need a firewall.  I know Win 7 has one as XP did also, but I'd like
something beyond that.  On the basis of some reviews here:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_sum_201112_en.pdf

it seems that something like AVIRA might be good for antivirus, but the free
version does not have built in firewall.

If necessary, I could use a separate antivirus and firewall program as along
as they are both good and free.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

bill


Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

bill buckner formulated the question :
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Avira is a good choice for a free AV program. I don't know about
personal firewalls as I don't use them. Obviously you like some kind of
feature that is often associated with a personal firewall but not the
native one - so you are on your own there. My recommendation is the
native firewall and a router with firewalling capability.



Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

FromTheRafters wrote:
 
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How is router-NAT not equivalent to the inbound-fire-walling equivalent
function of XP's native firewall?

Regarding out-bound firewalling - is there any such animal in a
consumer-grade (ISP-provided) modem/router that the average customer
knows how to (or wants to) administer?

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

Virus Guy pretended :
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It is a separate device. It doesn't run on the very system it hopes to
protect.
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Nope, not that I know of - but who cares?



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Avira Free Antivirus have a firewall
in it a run with Windows 7 firewall  too,
and so do Avast Free Antivirus..

But I running Avira Free Antivirus on my Windows 7 firewall..
with out Windows Defender for two year now.. and all so good..

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

on 9/27/2012, Hot-Text supposed :
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Surely there is a webpage that backs up this claim.
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It's nice to have a personal firewall when not using your own safe LAN
behind your own router. You might find this interesting regarding
personal firewalls. I agree with the author, but also feel that some of
the comments have merit.

http://ask-leo.com/is_an_outbound_firewall_needed.html



Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

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It's too late.
As you pointed out,
if outbound bypass the firewall..

A  Firewall Will Ask,
if you would like to gave,
a Software a outbound Port..

If you say Yes it's To late,
Because you gave it Admin Rights,
RWX or 777..

You gave it the right to backup,
and your Antivirus will not stop it,
For you the Admin and your Rights is Law..

That way a Pop-Up is not to be ""close"".

For the Webpage is in a Box with no Close,
the X is not as in look it a lie...

Remember it come in on Port 80 as a User,
with rights as User .. 666.

If Click anywhere on it,
you give it Admin rights,
and bypass the firewall..

To Stop it........

Always Click on keyboard
Ctrl+Alt+Delete
in Windows Task Manager
Look in tab "Applications"

Right Click
on IE "Pop-up" Icon
 
Click "go to Process"

Right Click
iexplore.exe
Click "End Process Tree"

Now go to "Control Panel"
Click "Internet Options"

"O" check Mark "Delete browsing history on exit"..
that will help keep that Sand Box Clean..

Click "Delete"

Check mark
Preserve Favorites website data
Temporary Internet files
Cookies
History
InPrivate Filering data
Click "Delete"
Click OK.....

Then Run you Antivirus Software on Full...

Now as For the man the put a key logger,
we can not help him,
you know he had to do a reinstall his OS...

And so for the People that Check the Pop-Up,
only have a 10% change to be help........


 

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:24 -0400, "bill buckner"

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    I think that's an advantage ...... why I use Avira.
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    I use XP, so can't advise on 7. If you use a firewall, just
make sure it easily monitors outgoing traffic.
    Privatefirewall comes to mind, but there are some privacy
issues in its EULA.
//
    "3.3. Privacyware has the right to gather information
regarding the use of the Software.  By installing the Software, you
grant Privacyware permission to collect this information.  Privacyware
may use this information solely to improve its products or to track
geographical data and the enforcement of this Agreement and will not
disclose this information in a form that could personally identify you
to any third party.
//
    If that's OK, then go to:
    http://www.privacyware.com/personal_firewall.html

    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

bill buckner wrote:
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Hello Bill

You might find this thread helpful:-

http://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/protect/forum/protect_other-protect_scanning/is-it-really-possible-to-be-safe-on-line/75d688e5-d09a-4d4d-8758-6715053dea0d

Or http://goo.gl/fPvyU (Microsoft Answers)

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

I find that Microsoft Security Essentials is very good and has kept me safe
for the last two years.
(Possibly until now see other thread!)
Quilljar


I am in the process of evaluating Win 7 on a slightly older laptop I own
before I buy the program.  In addition to updating Win 7, I'll be visiting
various sites obtaining trials of updated software that I commonly used on
my former Win XP system.

To make  a long story short, I need a decent free virus scanner and I also
need a firewall.  I know Win 7 has one as XP did also, but I'd like
something beyond that.  On the basis of some reviews here:
http://www.av-comparatives.org/images/docs/avc_sum_201112_en.pdf

it seems that something like AVIRA might be good for antivirus, but the free
version does not have built in firewall.

If necessary, I could use a separate antivirus and firewall program as along
as they are both good and free.

Thanks in advance for your suggestions.

bill


Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:24 -0400, "bill buckner"

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I use Win7H64SP1.

Avira is fine, I use Avira as "second-opinion" on-request virus scanner.

The firewall of Windows 7 seems to be ok, but works in silence.
When I switched to Win7 64-bit I used Windows7 Firewall Control:
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html
(64-bit free version available)

Later I switched to PrivateFirewall:
http://www.privacyware.com/PF_support.html
(64-bit free version)

--
Fred W. (NL)

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

Per bill buckner:
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I can't speak to the firewall part, but for the anti-virus I've
been using Avast for a lot of years and am totally satisfied.

It's not excessively in-your-face, it doesn't seem to slow the PC
excessively, the UI is what I'd call intuitive and useful...

Why a firewall beyond what Windows provides?  Should I be
thinking of getting one too?
--
Pete Cresswell

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

On Thu, 20 Sep 2012 09:32:24 -0400, bill buckner wrote:

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I've been using avast! Free Antivirus for years now and it has only let
me down once. Not an undetected virus or something, but the fact that
Firefox and Flash caused problems after a program update. (Of course,
this was solved, but at that time it was a PITA.)

I use Online Armor Free as a software firewall. WebShield disabled
because avast! already takes care of that. It also has HIPS which is
gooed most of the time, but it can be a little annoying.

I'm also behind a router with NAT and a built-in firewall.

--
s|b

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Unless this notebook is used on public WiFi hotspots, I don't even suggest
the use of a FireWall application.

--
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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I shake my head at all the half ass responses.

"X is good"

"Y works good for me"

Opinions based on nothing at all - because the nature of malware
exposure, remote code exploitation, trojan infiltration is stealthy,
erratic, highly dependant on personal computer-use habbits, luck and
chance.

"X worked good until my computer came down with something" - meaning
what?  That X *really was good* up until then?  Maybe it was shitty all
along?

Maybe they're all shitty and we just attribute that "well I wasn't
infected with anything last week" to our good AV software?  Is that what
we're telling ourselves for the past X years?

There was a time when the tech press thought that AV software was doomed
because it was always behind the curve at detecting malware that got
onto your system days, weeks or months AFTER the fact (and that's if it
detected it at all).  They thought that corporations and institutions
were getting wise to this and they'd stop spending thousands of dollars
on their enterprise-wise site licenses for that shit.  But I guess the
truth got talked down and burried and the AV industry is still alive and
well, selling their bullshit software to everyone.

Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

Virus Guy presented the following explanation :
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You're very opinionated for someone who knows nothing about the
subject.



Re: recommendations for free anti-virus and firewall?

FromTheRafters wrote:
 
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That is a vacuuous statement.

A real man would answer each and every one of my points if they thought
they could talk me down.

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Much as I hate to admit it, but I think you're correct in a lot of ways
here.  I really am looking for something more qualitative in responses,
although I did appreciate those who shared.  I guess the link I provided
gets me a bit closer, at least in terms of anti-virus.

I can appreciate the fact that many of us probably do have something
floating around within our OS.  Years ago, I had a virus, malware, etc, that
prevented a proper system restore in XP, so I turned off system restore as I
could never use it even after everything I came across to cleanse my PC
(Malwarebytes, Superspyware, etc).  Been using True Image for backup ever
since instead.  Is the virus still there?  Probably.  What's my defense?
Well, I try to watch my bank accounts, credit cards, etc closely.  Once in
10 years did I spot an illegal transaction where I had to get new account
numbers.  Were the credit card numbers read from an Internet transaction or
the local retailer?  Who knows.  Lot of "ifs", but I know what you mean.  A
bunch of BS too if I can't get any more specific.

I hesitate to update to Win 7.  I have been an XP user now for many years.
Many of my programs apparently won't work with 7 without paid updating,
which is something I had hoped to avoid.  Everyone I'm coming across in life
is telling me how "nice" 7 is, but when I ask specifically how it's better
than XP, that's where the line is drawn.  Oh well.

I was always told and even read that, to avoid the most viruses and other
nasty stuff, to use something other than Win based OS's.  For a couple of
years, I used a Mac.  I felt a lot more comfortable about having no virus
protection on it, and I didn't.  Programs ran smoothly the the laptop had a
great titanium casing.  Does that mean I was virus free?  I don't know.  I
sold it after a couple of years while I could still get the most value out
of it, not necessarily because I wanted to.  Computers and cars are both
alike in this regard, with their values dropping significantly the longer
they are owned.

I recently took advantage of a sale on the prior version of True Image (I
think it's called True Image 12).  I'm curious to try out its "try&decide"(I
think that's what it's called) for isolating and trying out programs that
one feels might compromise their system.  How it does this exactly I don't
know and I can't find much on the net about it so far.  For $12 for the
sealed and brand new program though, I guess it's worth a try.

So, yes, I definitely can relate to your points in this post.  I too have
been pretty vague in many regards.

bill

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bill buckner wrote :
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If you agree with VG that AV is bullshit, why are you asking for
recommendations? VG thinks AV is bullshit and that Win98 is secure.

He really doesn't know what he's talking about, but feel free to follow
his recommendations. Oh, wait - he didn't make any - he just complained
about the answers of others.

Avast! and AntiVir are well respected free AV programs, and you can use
whatever personal firewall program you want that has the features you
desire - even though they are not needed.



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I didn't say that, I said I thought he was correct in many ways.
Personally, I DO feel that virus protection is necessary, but I think his
point, even though implied, is that *maybe* *some* virus software companies
are just trying to cash in by creating an air of uncertainty (or fear) in
the typical online user and without regard as to whether or not their
product is any good.   I pretty much rule out the list of venders who were
compared in the link I provided, as well as those scanners suggested here as
being decent ones, but I don't dismiss the possibility.
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Like I said, in a way, I do see his point, but not necessarily agree with
it.  It's not difficult to understand how he feels though, at least for me.

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I agree, they do seem nice and once I get the Win 7 system up and running, I
may try them.

I appreciate your opinion also.

bill


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