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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware


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No they aren't. I can build an impressive PC for half the cost of a
decent mac.

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Ehh, no. Macs are by far more expensive.
 
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LOL, not hardly. I confess tho, I do have the advantage here, insider
knowledge.


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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

Dustin stated in post Xns9F558E94ED96BHHI2948AJD832@no on 9/3/11 10:54 AM:

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I suggest you check your math.

My claim:
    People generally pay 2-3x for a Mac than what they would pay
    for a PC.

Your claim:
    You have a PC about half the cost of a Mac.

And then you claim I am wrong.  Perhaps you read my comments incorrectly?

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Hence the "2-3x as much".
  
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I was in reference to Macs.  I was only including malware that directly
scams the infected party.  Someone else jumped in and noted that a lot of
malware does things other than this - acting as a zombie for example.

And I agreed - my comments had not taken that into consideration and I stood
corrected.

Still, Macs are popular enough now (about 6% world market share) where the
security by obscurity view is losing strength, just not by as much as I
implied in my initial comments.

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   Nevermind "build". I can plain get one in a box from Best Buy that
will be more powerful than a Mac while costing less. Apple uses
inherently expensive parts. That makes it pretty trivial to beat them
on cost.




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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 09/04/2011 08:21 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
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Nothing cost more than a Mac. Nothing.

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Sneaky Weasel stated in post 4e646d47$2@news.x-privat.org on 9/4/11 11:33
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Not even your education?   :)


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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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   It's hard NOT to beat laptop parts being put in a desktop chassis.

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Dustin wrote:
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So do I, and whilst they are very good at Graphics, none of them really
know the first thing about computers.

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Macs tend to have that dumbing down effect, yes. It's why people buy
them, I think. They don't want to know how it works, just that it does.

Bad for security, good for malware.
 


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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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   Graphics artists aren't exactly a great brain trust.

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    It doesn't matter if it's a "windows market". My remark about the brain
trust bears repeating about now. Whether or not malware exists on a platform
is entirely a matter of how good of a breeding ground it is. What kind of
security holes exist on the platform? How can an infection be created and
spread?

    These are the relevant questions.

    "How many machines are out there?" is quite irrelevant.

    Anyone familiar with the history of malware is aware of this.

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JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnj68fcr.jd9.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 9/4/11 8:10 PM:

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One of the thing that Jobs understood was that both the designers and the
programmers work hard... they just work in such different areas that they
have a hard time communicating.

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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware


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Not true these days. Malware creation is financially driven now.
 
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Not if you want a wide target audience. it's extremely relevent.
 
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I suspect my history with malware far exceeds that of your own, and
you're welcome to invite me to prove it if you'd like.


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Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

RayLopez99 wrote:

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10 minutes have passed since dopez wrote about Linux.

Really 'dumb' question: Could RayLopez99 now list one currently
active virus that I can download and infect a patched Linux PC.






Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

On 8/31/2011 3:35 PM, 7 wrote:
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Patched? Linux is not perfect? OMG! I thought Linux was written by the
gods and it's perfect according to those that hump Linux like a dog like
you 7. :)

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

On 31/08/2011 21:35, 7 wrote:
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There was one famous Linux virus.  It was an email that read something
like this :


Hi!  This is the Linux virus.  Please delete a bunch of your files at
random, then pass me on to everyone in your address book.


It was the only Linux virus that had any noticeable circulation.



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But there was a Windows variant many moon sago that got me once (and
I'm smarter than you) that said "if you have this system file,
XYZ.sys, delete it since it is a virus"--I did so, making a backup
copy of the file, thinking I could restore the system, and ended up
having to do a clean reinstall.  But it was a home system where I had
backed-up the data so I lost nothing but half a day reinstalling.

RL

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

RayLopez99 wrote:
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One of these?

sulfnbk.exe - Long Filename support file - Icon looked like a blackboard
with writing on it. This one was first, and unlike the other one this
one was a needed file.

<http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2001-042411-3943-99&tabid=2

jdbgmgr.exe - Java Debug Manager - Teddy bear Icon. The Bugbear worm was
active during this time which made the threatening teddy seem to
substantiate the hoax.

<http://www.symantec.com/security_response/writeup.jsp?docid=2002-041208-2143-99&tabid=2

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

7 wrote:
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...or even one that the ESET "Linux anti-virus" looks for.

The notion of a (for-profit) corporation selling such a product
reminds me of the guy who bought a magic stone
to carry with him to keep away tigers.
So far, no tigers within 20 miles.
(Note: The product isn't available in Siberia or Bengal.)

The ONLY need for an anti-whatever app on a Linux box
is to catch files with WINDOZE-SPECIFIC infections.
(if the box is a relay point for such files, e.g. a mail server
or a habitual sharer of files from who-knows-where).

Several years back, I remember reading on Slashdot
about a company that ran all Linux boxes.
Their customers started bitching at them
about getting infections from the company's server.
It had never occurred to them to
scan the content passing thru their system for Windoze badware
as none of their own boxes had ever flinched whatsoever.

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

JeffM wrote:
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http://go.eset.com/us/threat-center/threatsense-updates/search?q=linux

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

On 9/1/2011 7:49 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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You can't post facts to a Linux NG. It's a worthless effort. The clowns
are too far gone mentally to face in thing in reality.

Re: Really 'dumb' question: RayLopez99 will now list one currently active virus

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FromTheRafters wrote:
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Yawn.
That's a long list of WIN32 infections.
Not a "fix" for Linux hole anywhere in sight.

As I said before:
::The ONLY need for an anti-whatever app on a Linux box
::is to catch files with WINDOZE-SPECIFIC infections.
::(if the box is a relay point for such files, e.g. a mail server
::or a habitual sharer of files from who-knows-where).

To paraphrase 7:
Apply the patches available for your Linux box and you'll be fine.

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