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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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   Nope. ANY OS install requires the user have a little bit of a clue.
Although it is far more important that the user simply not be scared
away by the task.

   There is nothing "hard" about installing Linux. Infact, it is far more
likely to be EASIER as it will be self contained and automated unlike the
WinDOS equivalent.

[deletia]

   Hitting OK a few times is hardly difficult.

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Hacks are not malware

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   That's something else entirely.

   You pretty much have to lie through your teeth to make the original
argument seem plausible. You have to depend on your audience not fully
understanding what's being discussed.

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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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Ad hominem noted.  Rest of your post not read.

RL

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RayLopez99 wrote:

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He was actually very nice to you. In reality, you are dumber than a stump

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On 31/08/2011 19:16, RayLopez99 wrote:
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"Ad hominem" usually refers to an attempt to discredit someone's
argument by making a personal attack, especially one that has no
justification (examples include your referral to Linux advocates as
"retards").  I gave plenty of on-topic comments to your arguments - the
personal comments are just a summary of the character you show through
your Usenet postings, but I don't claim your arguments are false because
you are a moronic sycophant.  Your arguments are (for the most part)
false because they are nonsense.

And I find the idea of actively spreading lies in the attempt to make
money despicable.



Re: Really 'Ray Lopez' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 08/31/2011 03:15 AM, Hadron wrote:
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   Reading comprehension isn't his strong suit.

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   Which was his intent all along.

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Re: Really 'Ray Lopez' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 31/08/2011 6:30 AM, Norman Peelman wrote:
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Firstly, I notice that many of the updates offered via Update Manager on
the Ubu laptop are labelled "security updates", usually with an urgent
message to install them right now.

Secondly, Linux is very difficult to infect, but it's not impossible.

a) If a human gives an evil program permission to download and execute,
it will inherit all that user's permissions. Since most single-user
systems have a pretty high level of permissions (just one below sudo,
usually), that means the evil program can do a bunch of evil stuff. It's
surprisingly easy to persuade people to download stuff, open links, etc.

b) any program that communicates with the web is vulnerable to stealth
attacks, no matter what the OS.

So, sure, Linux is vulnerable to malware. Why would anyone be surprised
at that?

Ciao,
Wolf K.

Re: Really 'Ray Lopez' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

Wolf K wrote:
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there is however a subtle difference with linux, and that is there are a
lot of distros, and kernel versions and indeed 32 and 64 bit mixtures
out there.


Depending on the vulnerability you are exploiting, that may narrow the
target base to a very small percentage of Linux distros indeed.

Thats for real rootkit stuff

I accept that malware that makes - say firefox or java - do something
like dumping your hone directory somewhere - is a different kettle of
fish. But I think if that happened to me id notice the odd 30 gigs of
data spewing outwards..


As for downloadable executables, well the free aspect and te siource
code aspects is a real barrier. when I go looking for free odd bits of
code, chances are its so reputable - like Mozilla  that i can trust it
or its doesn't work without me compiling it.

The click/download/install thing simply isn't Linux. It IS OSX  and it
IS windows however.


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In principle everything is. What is interesting is in what ways and how
much, and the answer is 'few, and far between'  for many reasons.

Which makes the statement 'its far safer than windows or OSX' eaningful.


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[BIG GRIN]


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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware


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Give it time. That dumb userbase is growing. The "friendlier" linux gets,
the dumber the users you will have. This is what happened to windows,
this is how linux will go too. I will laugh hysterically in the
background. Not at anyone in particular, but at the computer industry as
a whole.



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Heaven's closed for what I've done.

Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 8/31/2011 4:19 PM, Dustin wrote:
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All you have to do is look at Android Linux being humped like a dog by
malware writers, because the masses are using Android.

Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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   Android suffers from trojans in binaries distributed from dodgey
3rd party app stores in China. It's not quite the same thing as what
has plagued Windows and DOS since the dawn of time.

   Although there is the occasional PC game or app that comes with
conveniently infected installation disks.

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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 8/31/2011 6:59 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:

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JEDIDIAH crawl back to your goddman hole where you belong. Nothing you
have to say is of any interest to me. You are a typical COLA clown with
nothing but excuse, after excuse and excuses I am not interested in what
you have to say.

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Same concept. Social engineering, same result; same tools used even.
Nothings changed.
 
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LOL.


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I am a sinner
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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

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   You can't get any dumber than the Mac userbase.

   So where's all the malware?

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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

JEDIDIAH stated in post slrnj5tf3h.stn.jedi@nomad.mishnet on 8/31/11 3:57
PM:

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Mac users, on average, are better educated than Windows users... and, I
believe, have higher IQs.

Of course, this is likely associated with Macs not being found at the low
end, but so be it.  :)

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There is far less than their is for Android Linux.

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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 31/08/2011 6:57 PM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
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The last update on the G4 Powerbook here was a security update.
_Somebody's_ worried.

Wolf K.

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On 09/01/2011 01:57 AM, JEDIDIAH wrote:
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Well, Jobs got one thing right. He took one of the best OS he could get
BSD. He stole that and makes lot of money with it, not returning a dime
to original developers - that's how.



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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

Kari Laine stated in post 0uadnUl3zpjmNsLTnZ2dnUVZ7sednZ2d@giganews.com on
9/1/11 8:57 AM:

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Stole?

Huh?

How the heck do you figure? And do you think Linux distro managers are
guilty of the same form of theft?  How about those who pirate music and
movies?


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Re: Really 'dumb' question: why does Linux have viruses? linux virus, linux malware

On 9/1/2011 12:37 PM, Snit wrote:
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Laine is a real piece of work. Soon Laine will pass 7 with its ramblings
and babble -- count on it. :)

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