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FromTheRafters wrote:
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But David posts here frequently,
even uses mail2news to expose his prurience,
doesn't that connote authority and knowledge?
Who do you two menials think you are
to have the audacity to impugn his opinions?

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...waiting for the lightning strike..

:oD

The whole 'infects or not' thing is an artificial dichotomy imposed to
make the industry happy. Two whole schools of thought, not just his
opinion. For those wanting worms to be 'not-viruses', they stipulate
that viruses must attach to code and worms need not. Some draw the line
at whether or not user action is required, or whether or not a program
is 'network aware'. I don't hold with any of those artificial lines, but
I try to be aware of them when discussing related topics with those that
do.



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David isn't alone in his viewpoint. A worm is a close relative of the
virus, as they both have replication functions which are intentional.
However, that's about all they have in common. A worm is actually it's
own program, self contained. When it replicates, it copies itself as
other filenames, but still remains, a worm.



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 - Tarsa, Sea Gate sell-sword.


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Some worms don't even hit the filesystem, and use network replication.
The 'self-contained' thing is another artificial line drawn between
virus and worm (another way of saying it isn't infecting to replicate).
A worm can be exploit code and shellcode embedded in data that gains
more content by downloading from a previous victim. Hardly
'self-contained' when it spans systems.



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Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?


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"Is there anything in Guul Draz that doesn't suck the life out of you?"
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| Do you have any evidence to back up your claim?


He doesn't and of course Malwarebytes' has all the files used.
The files are a subset of two recent malware submissions.


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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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I know. I was just being funny. :) The guy is obviously a troll. At first,
I wasn't sure; he seemed to have a legitimate gripe; but as soon as the
evidence (and not pc magazine articles) was provided, it went south fast.



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"Is there anything in Guul Draz that doesn't suck the life out of you?"
 - Tarsa, Sea Gate sell-sword.


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Are you high? coming down from a crack benge? What exactly is your major
malfunction?


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"Is there anything in Guul Draz that doesn't suck the life out of you?"
 - Tarsa, Sea Gate sell-sword.


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On Thu, 14 Jan 2010 19:38:29 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

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20 tons of highly suspect crap snipped. No I did NOT wade through any of
it. Instead I researched your source and find it is HIGHLY SUSPECT as an
online tool for VIRUS AUTHORS.

Unlike VB, AV Comparatives and ICSA (my recently posted sources)
virustotal has a shady reputation for actually being a tool for virus
writers to hone thier skills and code before a release into your or my
computers. They are not nationally recognized nor do they offer any kind
of acclaimed certification. Moreover the malicous files it 'detects' are
NOT forwarded so major AV vendors for the common good..gee that smells
fishy to me and I'm not the only one.

My source? (I love this part!) Here is a link everyone needs to read
about virustotal. Oh and before I post it thier 'claim to fame' as is
prominently displayed on thier homepgae is a PC World magazine rating of
getting themselves lumped in with 99 other applications as Best of 2007.
But Dave I know you debunk ALL magazine endorsements..but how about one
that is 3 years OLD??? Truthfully just admit it man...you have been
outgunned and are also out of ammo. Just wave your hanky in the
air..I'll grant you a surrender...Geeeesh!!!!!

OK here is the link that casts suspicion on your latest banner waving
fan-boy post.
http://www.symantec.com/connect/forums/symantec-no-longer-virustotal

I'm sorry Dave but only the finest tuna can be trusted and VT is NOT
trustworthy.

Have a nice life in your world Dave....I'm off to dreamland.....Zzzz
Zzzz....Zzzz

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You might want to read that yourself.



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fat.charlie@yahoo.com says...
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA....

Your own posted testing methods showed that you have limited experience,
limited testing, flawed testing methods...... And you have the
nerve/gall to claim you've exposed someone as a fake/charlatan?

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