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It would be. You sell it, you poxy low-life shill.

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Borked Pseudo Mailed wrote:

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Yes Art sells Kaspersky products. Everybody here is fully cognizant of that
fact. He is quite open and above board about it. I haven't heard of him
getting rich on this venture as yet.

James E. Morrow

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On 21 Jul 2006 03:48:48 +0200, "James E. Morrow"

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Rich? Hell, I've yet to see my first little commission check from that
affiliate web site thing :).

What do you expect from a cowardly sicko named "Borked Pseudo
Mailed"? Truth? Facts? Honesty? Integrity? LOL!


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90% of the people in this group recommend Kaspersky.Quit picking on Art.He
has done alot of good here people! RH710

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Art wrote:

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Here is your chance to do a little marketing.

Why popular antivirus apps 'do not work'
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Antivirus applications from Symantec, McAfee or Trend Micro -- the
three leading AV vendors in 2005 -- are far less likely to detect new
viruses and Trojans than the least popular brands.

This has nothing to do with the quality of the software or how long it
takes the respective firms to update their clients with signatures and
other malware countermeasures.

AV companies continue to refine their products and most will tell you
they stopped relying on purely signature-based systems many years ago.
These days they use all sorts of clever methods to try and detect
suspicious behaviour but the problem is that malware authors are also
very clever. Very, very clever.

On Wednesday, the general manager of Australia's Computer Emergency
Response Team (AusCERT), Graham Ingram, described how the threat
landscape has changed -- along with the skill of malware authors.

"We are getting code of a quality that is probably worthy of software
engineers. Not application developers but software engineers," said

However, the actual reason why the top selling antivirus applications
don't work is because malware authors are specifically testing their
Trojans and viruses to make sure they can bypass these applications
before releasing them in the wild.

"The most popular brands of antivirus on the market… have an 80
percent miss rate… So if you are running these pieces of software,
eight out of 10 pieces of malicious code are going to get in," said

Although Ingram didn't mention any of the leading losers by name,
Gartner's figures for 2005 show that Symantec is the clear leader with
53.6 percent of the market. McAfee and Trend own 18.8 percent and 13.8
percent of the market respectively.

One vendor Ingram did mention was Russian outfit Kaspersky, which in
the same tests managed to block around 90 percent of new malware.

According to Gartner, Kaspersky's market share is a lowly 0.7 percent.

Most large firms already use more than one antivirus application but I
wonder how many use two of the Symantec, McAfee and Trend trio?

If you do then I suggest investing in yet another -- but whatever you
do, stay well away from the bestseller shelf.


For those who don't know, installing two (or more) resident AV
applications is highly discouraged.

Ron :)

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Ron Lopshire wrote:
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while that article does say good things about kaspersky, i'd suggest
steering clear of it (the article - and it's supporting article for that
matter) for marketing purposes... the FUD contained within wouldn't be
the sort of thing you'd necessarily want to be associated with...

"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

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kurt wismer wrote:

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That is why I used the term "marketing", you know, marketing <==> BS.

When you see me add stuff like this to my list of sites (av-tests,
av-comparatives, etc.) useful for comparison of AV apps, then you will
know that I have completely lost my mind.

Ron ;)

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That article reminds me of this:

which refers to a test of version 6 Proactive Defense
Module done by Andreas Clementi. I think the PDM
coupled with the improvements in scan speed set
version 6 off as a significant improvement over
earlier versions. There are several other things
that make KAV 6 appealing when compared to
the "big market share" products. It's far from
bloated ... a much smaller download. It's not
intrusive in my (testing) experience, though I've
never been happy with any kind of realtime or
background monitors underfoot, and I don't use
them myself. However, I have given thought to
the fact that malware is increasingly becoming
more sophisticated and elusive ... so I have in
the back of my mind the possibility of using
Kaspersky realtime while browsing at some
point in the future. Mainly though, I value the
outstanding on-demand capabilities with container
malware, detection rates, and fast reaction times
with new malware that KAV has had for many
years. So that's my "sales pitch" :)


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