Re: found a site that tried to put smitfraud on my pc

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Which government are you referring to when you talk about enforcing the law
on the internet?  A big part of the problem is the internet is a global
entity and governments can only attempt to directly regulate activities
within their borders.


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No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others
have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the
net. The internet is not some legal limbo,  where fraudsters can get away
with what they wish.

Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card
payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal
behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain
an active blacklist of malicious sites.

It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by
some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but
some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort.

Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear.

Gaz



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| No. Sorry, doesnt hold water. The US Government, China, France and others
| have shown quite clearly how when they want to they can enforce laws on the
| net. The internet is not some legal limbo,  where fraudsters can get away
| with what they wish.

| Follow the money, these companies survive by taking, largely, credit card
| payments. Put a legal liability on credit card companies for the criminal
| behaviour of their authorised customers, put obligations on isps to maintain
| an active blacklist of malicious sites.

| It is reaching the point now when the majority of computers are infected by
| some kind of spyware. Some of the spyware is sneaky, with dubious EULAs, but
| some of it is just plain criminal, with no eula of any sort.

| Turn off the money supply, and these companies will disapear.

| Gaz


I wish it was that easy.  It isn't.  :-(
Take for example the RBN.

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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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That sounds like it came straight from the advertising department
of some snake oil distributorship.

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Except it's a valid statement these days. Sad but true.


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Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have
statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be
true.

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Kerry Brown




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| Some people consider Windows spyware but other than this do you have
| statistics to back this up. My experience certainly doesn't show this to be
| true.

Maybe not specifically spyware but malware of some kind in general.

Hell, take an unpatched Wintel PC and connect it to the Internet w/o a FireWall
and see
how long it stays clean.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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I guess it depends on your definition of spyware. I took the post to mean
spyware = malware. My experience is that maybe forty percent of the
computers I see in the course of doing business are infected with malware.
I'm sure the general population is much lower than that. People only call me
in when something is wrong so my sample is skewed. I'm not trying to make
light of the malware problem. It's the most serious issue with computers
today and it's getting worse. I don't however believe the assertion that
more than 50% of the computers in the world are infected with malware.

--
Kerry Brown




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| I guess it depends on your definition of spyware. I took the post to mean
| spyware = malware. My experience is that maybe forty percent of the
| computers I see in the course of doing business are infected with malware.
| I'm sure the general population is much lower than that. People only call me
| in when something is wrong so my sample is skewed. I'm not trying to make
| light of the malware problem. It's the most serious issue with computers
| today and it's getting worse. I don't however believe the assertion that
| more than 50% of the computers in the world are infected with malware.

| --
| Kerry Brown


If you include the corporate computers, no.

If you exclude the corporate computers, I'd say that 50% is more realistic with
maybe a
slight exaggeration.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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without atleast sp1, 6 minutes average before it's botted.


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Regards,
Dustin Cook,  Author of BugHunter
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
  


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I didn't mean to suggest that nothing can be done.  I'm just saying that it
becomes a lot more complicated if the source of internet crime is outside
the borders of the attacked country.  The internet is not outside the law in
any ultimate sense, but it's like outlaws hiding in the 1800's "wild west",
ie damned hard to find and bring to justice.


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