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You mean Dr. Vesselin Bontchev of Frisk software? Yes, he certainly does know
his stuff. He also used to do some work with the University of Hamburg Virus
Test Center. If he says it's crap, you can bet that it is indeed crap.


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Why?
Because he is a virus expert, that means we take his statements in av
comparison as fact?
I for one do not.

Frisk. How well do they rate at av-comparatives? Not at all.
Maybe that is some of the reason to why he brands them as crap.

I trust av-comparatives more. Mainly because they give an unbiased
'opinion'.

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No, but because he explained the reasoning behind his opinion so that
even non-tech types can understand the problem, you should realize that
he is correct.

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On Thu, 18 Feb 2010 16:08:11 -0500, "FromTheRafters"

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I have not read his reasoning and neither do I want to. To me he is just
a person, not an idol. I make up my own mind.

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All I can say as someone who has been removing these things for the past 8
years is that I haven't found one tool that does it all.  Currently, Avast
seems to be the best realtime blocker, but I'm betting that it wouldn't stop a
Trojan such as the one that is disguised in a list of images of Olympic
snowboarder Shawn White I came upon Wednesday night.  

Here's the link to a Google image search.  

http://images.google.com/images?q=%22shaun%20white%22

Beware the third image, the one with the URL of lenka-baby.sk.  Going to that
website shows the photo for a moment and then displays a webpage that looks
like a malware scan.  It then encourages the user to download a fix.  Now, you
folks tell me: how many a-v programs are going to catch something like that?  
Heck, Google didn't even catch it!


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If the page doesn't contain malware, your AV won't (or shouldn't) detect
it. There is essentially no difference between a legit page trying to
convince you to download their legitimate program and a socially
engineered webpage trying to convince you to download their illegitimate
program. When you actually download the program (and it hits your
filesystem) it is then that your AV scans it. Then, there is little
difference between a legitimate application and an illegitimate one
programmatically speaking.

When antivirus programs were expected to detect viruses, they could at
least depend on the fact that *all* viruses have code that replicates
and very few legitimate programs do this. Now with being expected to
detect non-replicating malicious code, it is nearly impossible to tell
legitimate from illegitimate programatically. An illegitimate program
has to be reported as malware (determined subjectively) and detect it by
cryptographic hash algorithm comparison or some other means.

P.S. You were probably redirected from that site to another which
actually contained the social engineering. I recently read that nearly
80% of the top 100 legitimate websites have at one time or another
within the year 2009 led to malware of this type.



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David Kaye wrote:

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So what?  That page is showing you some content that YOU interpret as an AV
scan.  That it has some animation and some text and some graphics doesn't
make it malware or even a program.  YOU will have to actually *download* the
software that they offer to then find out if it is malware.

I draw a picture of a gun shooting a bullet that blows a hole in a person's
head.  So what real people have died to whom you showed that picture?  If
that worked, you wouldn't have to wait to buy a handgun.  Just draw to kill.

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PajaP wrote:
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No such thing!
Anyone's "opinion" is merely the results of an evaluation
of something against their own biases,
question should be;
do their biases coincide with yours?

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That's your opinion. ha. I disagree.

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His do not. Maybe because I do not have a vested interest in any av
company.

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