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A list of virus scanning sites was previously posted to alt.comp.freeware
(see below).   I've been using the main ones (Jotti and Virustotal for
years).   Do all these sites provide this service to get fees from the
major AV program players, and to submit the stats (and file samples) to the
various program manufacturers?

In a similar vein, I'm guessing that's the reason for all the free versions
of AV programs (and Avira's premium offers every so often).  In addition to
getting potential paying customers, they also benefit from that many more
samples sent in by users.  This helps them fine tune the definition files
and attempt to be the first kid on the block with the scan alert.

That said, how many programs not only find the virus but clean the file and
whatever registry strings have been added?   If you look at the part of the
Symantec site which describes the trojans/viruses, the manual cleaning area
is very specific and detailed.  I know that most of us have criticized
Norton in the past for it's heavy CPU use, but from all reports they've
taken steps to reduce it.  In addition, AV-Comparatives consisently has it
rated as one of the best and that Symantec site is still the bible in
figuring out how to manually clean an infection (other than getting advice
from Wilders).


(I'm taking the liberty of crossposting this to alt.comp.anti-virus to
increase the number of comments as I normally would have asked this there).

Thanks to Sysinternals' light whois program for making it easy to find this
info.   Their search has improved greatly over the last few months.  I used
to constantly get messages that indicated the site wasn't in the db or it
just hung and returned a general "couldn't find" message.

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Tech Organization:Secure Systems Lab
Tech Street1:Route des Cretes
Tech City:Sophia Antipolis
Tech State/Province:
Tech Postal Code:06560


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Registrant Organization:Jotti
Registrant Street1:Waardweg 12
Registrant City:Rheden
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:6991VB
Registrant Country:NL

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Registrant Organization:Virus.Org
Registrant Street1:15 Elm Lodge
Registrant Street2:75 Stevenage Road
Registrant City:London
Registrant State/Province:
Registrant Postal Code:SW6 6NZ
Registrant Country:ZW
Tech Organization:Fountainhead Industries
Tech Street1:PO Box U227
Tech Street2:University of Wollongong
Tech Street3:
Tech City:Wollongong
Tech State/Province:New South Wales



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egistrant Organization:liu yang
egistrant Street1:Fengtai Qu Cao qiao dong lu 8 hao yuan 8 hao lou 2103 shi
egistrant Street2:
egistrant Street3:
egistrant City:Beijing
egistrant State/Province:Beijing
egistrant Postal Code:100000
egistrant Country:CN


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 Hispasec Sistemas        
 Edificio Bic Euronova
 Parque Tecnologico Andalucia, Malaga 29590
 ES
 902161025



Re: Question on the virus scanning sites

From: <hmmm>

| A list of virus scanning sites was previously posted to alt.comp.freeware
| (see below).   I've been using the main ones (Jotti and Virustotal for
| years).   Do all these sites provide this service to get fees from the
| major AV program players, and to submit the stats (and file samples) to the
| various program manufacturers?

| In a similar vein, I'm guessing that's the reason for all the free versions
| of AV programs (and Avira's premium offers every so often).  In addition to
| getting potential paying customers, they also benefit from that many more
| samples sent in by users.  This helps them fine tune the definition files
| and attempt to be the first kid on the block with the scan alert.

| That said, how many programs not only find the virus but clean the file and
| whatever registry strings have been added?   If you look at the part of the
| Symantec site which describes the trojans/viruses, the manual cleaning area
| is very specific and detailed.  I know that most of us have criticized
| Norton in the past for it's heavy CPU use, but from all reports they've
| taken steps to reduce it.  In addition, AV-Comparatives consisently has it
| rated as one of the best and that Symantec site is still the bible in
| figuring out how to manually clean an infection (other than getting advice
| from Wilders).


| (I'm taking the liberty of crossposting this to alt.comp.anti-virus to
| increase the number of comments as I normally would have asked this there).

| Thanks to Sysinternals' light whois program for making it easy to find this
| info.   Their search has improved greatly over the last few months.  I used
| to constantly get messages that indicated the site wasn't in the db or it
| just hung and returned a general "couldn't find" message.


I'm sorry I don't get the question.

BTW:  ANUBIS is NOT a virus scanner.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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Re: Question on the virus scanning sites



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In other words, I'm asking if it's correct that these sites are either non-
profit organizations or profit making ventures,  and that there must be some
fee provided by the AV vendors in order for them to be maintained - and

are the results of their scans forwarded to the vendors of those scanning
engines used (I'm assuming that all the programs used on those sites have
been donated).


Re: Question on the virus scanning sites

From: <hmmm>


| In other words, I'm asking if it's correct that these sites are either non-
| profit organizations or profit making ventures,  and that there must be some
| fee provided by the AV vendors in order for them to be maintained - and

| are the results of their scans forwarded to the vendors of those scanning
| engines used (I'm assuming that all the programs used on those sites have
| been donated).

They are not for profit.  The results of their scans are NOT forwarded to
participating AV
vendors the samples are forwarded to participating AV vendors.

I again state that ANUBIS is not an virus scanning site.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Re: Question on the virus scanning sites


 
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the samples are forwarded to participating
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That's what I meant to ask.  I should have phrased it as "are the sample and
the results" sent to the vendors.



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Then they're providing a wonderful service in this altruistic endeavor,
although in order to break even, the AV vendors must be contributing
something to keep these sites maintained by private individuals.



:To David Lipman

DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...

 I use Multi-AV every now and then, along with Avira... Avira being the
resident anti-virus. I like the Sophos, Trend Micro (I've used Trend
Micro for years), and Kaspersky combo, but downloading the KAV stuff is
a real pain in the arse. Is there another way to get the updated
definitions, without having to download these files ONE AT A TIME? Maybe
an all-in-one file? Thanks.

Al

Re: :To David Lipman


| DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...

|  I use Multi-AV every now and then, along with Avira... Avira being the
| resident anti-virus. I like the Sophos, Trend Micro (I've used Trend
| Micro for years), and Kaspersky combo, but downloading the KAV stuff is
| a real pain in the arse. Is there another way to get the updated
| definitions, without having to download these files ONE AT A TIME? Maybe
| an all-in-one file? Thanks.

| Al

You might find them here...
ftp://updates2.kaspersky-labs.com /

The advantage of the way I do it it in the Multi AV is that it only downloads
the updated
files.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Re: :To David Lipman

DLipman~nospam~@Verizon.Net says...
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All in all, it probably would be better than going to site, searching
for update, unzipping and all that. Thanks for the response.

Al

Re: :To David Lipman



| All in all, it probably would be better than going to site, searching
| for update, unzipping and all that. Thanks for the response.

| Al

That's my intent and objective in creating the Multi AV as a front-end to the AV
scanners.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



Re: :To David Lipman


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Whether using this or the Multi-AV program (which I've used in the past),
do you run into the Kaspersky chkdsk problem they've had with some drives in
the past & I remember reading that Kaspersky used to tag files after a scan,
even when using Multi-AV's Kaspersky engine, and you would have download a
tool to untag the files.  Does this still occur?

Re: :To David Lipman

On Wed, 10 Dec 2008 20:53:51 -0600, hmmm wrote:

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Don't know. I probably was one of those 'lucky' users who never experienced
the chkdsk problem associated with Kaspersky.

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