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Hi,

My computer have Symantec Norton Antivirus Corporate Version
10.1.4.400 & Symantec Client Firewall Version 8.7.4.79 installed. My
system administrator told me that Symantec's antivirus software were
among the worst commercial product in the market. Was my friend's
comment true(His company used F-Secure product)? How F-Secure
antivirus & internet security products compared to Symantec?

How Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition differs from other non-
Corporate Edition (e.g. Norton AntiVirus 2007,2008)?

Tks!

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| Hi,

| My computer have Symantec Norton Antivirus Corporate Version
| 10.1.4.400 & Symantec Client Firewall Version 8.7.4.79 installed. My
| system administrator told me that Symantec's antivirus software were
| among the worst commercial product in the market. Was my friend's
| comment true(His company used F-Secure product)? How F-Secure
| antivirus & internet security products compared to Symantec?

| How Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition differs from other non-
| Corporate Edition (e.g. Norton AntiVirus 2007,2008)?

| Tks!

He's right!

F-Secure is OK and hedges out Symantec.

Norton and Symantec are the same and it doesn't matter if it is corporate or
retail, they
usethe same signatues.

However the GUI of non corporate versions tend to have the "bloat" problem.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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On 1/5/2010 6:25 AM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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David have you personally installed any NAV 2009 /2010 or NIS 2009 /
2010 products yourself?  Every reviewer I have read -and- my own
experiences show the old tired "Norton is bloatware" (which is never
supported with data but just a shoot-from-the-hip 'parroting' much like
a Macaw) argument to be baseless since Symantec's 2009 product line
offering. So..have you tried them for yourself and haven't you read the
reviews and test data such as vbuletin and icsa?  Been away for a few
years from this group David and smiled when I saw your posts and
chuckled at your same old worn-out regurgitated Norton-bashing
'promulgations'

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| David have you personally installed any NAV 2009 /2010 or NIS 2009 /
| 2010 products yourself?  Every reviewer I have read -and- my own
| experiences show the old tired "Norton is bloatware" (which is never
| supported with data but just a shoot-from-the-hip 'parroting' much like
| a Macaw) argument to be baseless since Symantec's 2009 product line
| offering. So..have you tried them for yourself and haven't you read the
| reviews and test data such as vbuletin and icsa?  Been away for a few
| years from this group David and smiled when I saw your posts and
| chuckled at your same old worn-out regurgitated Norton-bashing
| 'promulgations'

People give me their PCs to clean.  All various notebooks and desktops.  Besides
the
factor I got their PCs because they were infected, those with the various
flavours
Norton/Symantec are noticibly hindered by the retail versions.  You can see and
feel the
OS sluggishness (this includs Norton 360).  The sluggishness is not noted on the
enterprise versions.  Albeit the versions with the Symantec FireWall can become
problematic.

Since their ability catch most malware is low, they get removed and replaced
with Avira
AntiVir and MBAM.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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On Tue, 5 Jan 2010 10:55:29 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

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 David this is baseless 'proof'. What is DOES NOT do is test or rate
in any way the integrity of Norton products ( 2009/2010 line). What it
DOES DO is to once again affirm that if people launch anything and
everything they can click on and allow malweare full access, then
certainly they will be infected REGARDLESS  of the AV used.

MOREOVER the point I took exception to in the first place was your
tired old chant about 'Norton bloatware' NOT Norton detection. The
Norton 2009 / 2010 line is very light on resources. So..I ASK AGAIN
have you read the test reviews and AV comparitive test that clearly
show this new era of Norton security products?  Maybe you should do
your own tests and take actual hard , cold data. Instead of yoyur
endless Norton bloatware mantra.

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|  David this is baseless 'proof'. What is DOES NOT do is test or rate
| in any way the integrity of Norton products ( 2009/2010 line). What it
| DOES DO is to once again affirm that if people launch anything and
| everything they can click on and allow malweare full access, then
| certainly they will be infected REGARDLESS  of the AV used.

| MOREOVER the point I took exception to in the first place was your
| tired old chant about 'Norton bloatware' NOT Norton detection. The
| Norton 2009 / 2010 line is very light on resources. So..I ASK AGAIN
| have you read the test reviews and AV comparitive test that clearly
| show this new era of Norton security products?  Maybe you should do
| your own tests and take actual hard , cold data. Instead of yoyur
| endless Norton bloatware mantra.

I have done my own tests and I don't change what I posted.

I suggest you ignore me.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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On Thu, 7 Jan 2010 16:18:42 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

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OK David I will ignore you as you have suggested. I find it rather
shallow and disingenuous of you sir to make misleading  comments and
recommendations about security matters guised as fact  to others and
then when asked to substantiate your claims and recommendations  with
data, you cannot or will not do so.  It is pathetically transparent.
  
David, I believe you're full of cow manure. My parting remark is that
in the'Real World' of accountability those that put forth advice and
claims as fact are then obligated to substantiate them when asked to
do so. It's called credibility and FYI sir, even self-respect.
Apparently in 'David's World' being forthright and accountable are
still yet to be  acquired moral values.

-ps consider yourself personally ignored..but not your baseless and
unsubstantiated  posts.


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On Thu, 07 Jan 2010 17:53:58 -0500, fat.charlie@yahoo.com wrote:
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David gave his opinion.
You gave your opinion.
You did not provide any "proof" to substantiate your opinion.
What is your problem?
That he does not agree with you?

--
Fred W. (NL)

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wrote:

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I was not challenged to provide any proof. He was. One need only
browse the net for glowing reviews of the Norton 2009/2010 product
line. In addition why not check rthe ICSA test scores and validation
status and don't forget Virus Bulletion's 100% in the wild rating. He
cited personal data that he had accumulated hinmself after working on
"thousands of PC's" so I asked to see it. He is unable to produce it.
My sources are public domain and open for all to see. His were
privately held (or so he leads us to believe) and so I requested
access. LikeI said he is full of cow manure.

However in the spirit of fairness and to set an example for Mr Lipman
to grow by  here is just one of many ratings sites that rate Symantec
above ALL others.

Symantec's 2009 of security products were  rated "Product of the Year
2009' at this independent  AV Comparison site

http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests/summary-reports

OK MR Lipman YOUR TURN......

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fat.charlie@yahoo.com says...
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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA - and in for every glowing example on a review
website, corporate website, blog, there are equal or more reviews that
say it's trashed systems, decreased performance, caused problems....

I can remember when Zeos was given the #1 rating in PC Magazine for
almost a year of issues, bought one because of the reviews and learned
that the motherboard was broken, had wirewrap sockets in some instances,
tied IRQ lines to each other....

Symantec is a good product, better then most of the others, but, after
MY EXPERIENCE, I've switched to Avira.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.  
Trust yourself.
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| wrote:

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| I was not challenged to provide any proof. He was. One need only
| browse the net for glowing reviews of the Norton 2009/2010 product
| line. In addition why not check rthe ICSA test scores and validation
| status and don't forget Virus Bulletion's 100% in the wild rating. He
| cited personal data that he had accumulated hinmself after working on
| "thousands of PC's" so I asked to see it. He is unable to produce it.
| My sources are public domain and open for all to see. His were
| privately held (or so he leads us to believe) and so I requested
| access. LikeI said he is full of cow manure.

| However in the spirit of fairness and to set an example for Mr Lipman
| to grow by  here is just one of many ratings sites that rate Symantec
| above ALL others.

| Symantec's 2009 of security products were  rated "Product of the Year
| 2009' at this independent  AV Comparison site

| http://www.av-comparatives.org/comparativesreviews/main-tests/summary-reports

| OK MR Lipman YOUR TURN......

In CLOSED and PRIVATE Malware Research forum that very test was brought up.  One
person's
(who will reamin anonymous) opinion on this..

"AV-Comparatives Crowns Best Security Vendors = a really bad George Carlin Joke
about Weed
Thats the largest collective group of f**ktards I have ever encountered. "
{ Quote censored for public }

And I agree !

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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On Fri, 8 Jan 2010 17:45:21 -0500, "David H. Lipman"

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Thank you for sharing "one man's opinion"  which hardly debunks many
glowing test results and performance reviews of Norton 2009/2010
security product line.  It is quite evident Dacvid you are best left
ignored because you have NO USEFUL DATA to share other than your own
unsubstrantiated 'findings' and then this pathetic so-called testimony
from a "closed and private" malware research forum....It's OK
Davey..looks like that's the best you can do.  Thanks for the chuckle,
and I'm sure i am not alone in this amusement you provide....

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On 01/08/2010 04:45 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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Mr. Lipman, you are being trolled by fat.charlie.


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| On 01/08/2010 04:45 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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| Mr. Lipman, you are being trolled by fat.charlie.


Yes !  :-)

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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I liked him better as a shill.



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| Hi,

| My computer have Symantec Norton Antivirus Corporate Version
| 10.1.4.400 & Symantec Client Firewall Version 8.7.4.79 installed. My
| system administrator told me that Symantec's antivirus software were
| among the worst commercial product in the market. Was my friend's
| comment true(His company used F-Secure product)? How F-Secure
| antivirus & internet security products compared to Symantec?

| How Norton Antivirus Corporate Edition differs from other non-
| Corporate Edition (e.g. Norton AntiVirus 2007,2008)?

| Tks!

BTW:
Why are you asking about Symantec AV in a Sophos news group ?

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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In article <989a212a-953a-4f5f-9efc-
88429436fdfa@a15g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>, emil_lam@lycos.com says...
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While you dismiss David's experience and knowledge, you might want to
listen to him and myself.

I've used Symantec Corporate Edition products on thousands of computers
since version 7.6 came out. In that time I've never (until last month)
had a single malware compromised computer on any network we've designed
and managed, while managing it.

I've seen thousands of compromised computers, both when we take over a
network and when we work on home computers for company owners.

In my decades of experience I had not found a product that worked better
for my own system or my clients UNTIL last month. Keep in mind, I detest
their HOME product line, and they've had a few issues where V9 borked a
lot of things, 10.(can't remember), would corrupt user profiles, etc...

I had a machine in one of my DMZ networks, no HTTP filtering, and it was
running SEPP 11.5, the latest and greatest, all the tools and up-to-
date. I was logged on as a local Admin, browsed to a website, spelled it
incorrectly, and was compromised in seconds without having to click
another thing. Symantec didn't even alert to it, a full scan in Safe
Mode didn't remove the multiple malware... To make a long story very
short, I cleaned it up, uninstalled SEPP, installed Avira, it fould
more, cleaned it, and then went back to the website that compromised the
system - Avira (FREE) blocked the attack, alerted, kept the computer
safe....

I have moved all of my computers and started moving clients computers to
Avira PAID versions and will not switch back to Symantec until I can
prove in my lab that it will stop drive-by attacks that should never
have been able to compromise a computer.

Do I have strict technical stats published somewhere - NO
Do I have details for you to inspect - NO
Do I have this information validated by a third-party - NO

You are welcome to believe what you want - the information is for you to
ignore if you want, but you have no reason to argue against the data
because you don't have enough information to base your argument on.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.  
Trust yourself.
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Thank you for validating your credibility!!  LOL!!  
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fat.charlie@yahoo.com says...
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You're welcome, and thanks for showing that you are unwilling to learn
from anyone's experience with the products you asked about.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.  
Trust yourself.
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says...
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I see that you had NOTHING of value to add to the discussion - shows
that you don't really have any experience.

--
You can't trust your best friends, your five senses, only the little
voice inside you that most civilians don't even hear -- Listen to that.  
Trust yourself.
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

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