Ping Ray Lopez

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Hi Ray...

I just wanted to let you know that I find your paranoia funny as it's
unwarranted. I'm retired Vx; never had any plans to do anything with you
or anyone else. The java issue you had wasn't my doing. When it happens
again, it still won't be my doing.

Dustbin isn't creative. You have to consider, I went to public school.
[g] I don't think it's difficult to show a smidgeon of respect and
properly spell my name. You'll have to if you want direct answers to
questions you present here, from me atleast.

Other posters are knowledgable in a variety of subjects so often should
be able to help you. Every so often tho, I'm likely to have the answer
you seek and they won't. In those cases, a good Repertoire with me could
be useful to you. You wouldn't be the first who came out smelling like
roses for his client because of something I either shared with, or did
for them. I'm not quite the asshole I let you believe me to be. [g]

As long as you continue acting like a school kid with school yard level
taunts, I'll continue being cheeky and essentially, not helpful. I'll
toss you a bone every now and then, but that's all. OTH, If you do find
a creative way to insult me, I might even toss you an extra bone! :) I
do respect dry humour and sarcasm.

So, if you want to save time and just be treated like an everyday joe
who's asking a question and needs a responsible answer, address me by my
name or handle. I answer to either.

The cooperation you get from me is entirely under your control. You
could put the knowledge I have to good use and make yourself more money
to add to your pool of millions. I wouldn't mind. I enjoy doing
technical things, I don't do it for money.

A little respect goes a long way with me Ray...

Just sayin. :)


--
I don't need no arms around me. And I dont need no drugs to calm me. I
have seen the writing on the wall. Don't think I need anything at all.
No! Don't think I'll need anything at all. All in all it was all just
bricks in the wall. All in all you were all just bricks in the wall.
Pink Floyd Another Brick in the Wall part 3

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He gave out this same story when he was writing his viruses and
infecting people with them.

It's always someone else's fault according to sickos like him.  They
basically use the same story.

"if the bitch hadn't kept holding onto her purse, I wouldn't have had
to f'kn break her face to get the damn purse."

"I told the mutha' to not to do anything stupid. It's his own fault I
hadda' shoot the sumbitch.  He shoulda' gave up the f'kn wallet."

Sound familiar?


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joe@who.knows.com wrote in

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Fair enough. You do realize, my viruses shipped with instructions tho
right? I'm going to educate others who might be reading. I don't mind
when you tell the truth about my past, but when you mislead; I'll be
here to correct you. :)

Here we go.. this is what was inside the irok.zip as released from my
vx website.. first, file contents: (Yes, I keep all my shit dude. lol)


PKUNZIP (R)    FAST!    Extract Utility    Version 2.50   03-01-1999
Copr. 1989-1999 PKWARE Inc.  All Rights Reserved.  Shareware Version
PKUNZIP Reg. U.S. Pat. and Tm. Off.

Pentium II class CPU detected.
XMS version 2.00 detected.
DPMI version 0.90 detected.

Searching ZIP: IROK11C.ZIP

 Length  Method   Size  Ratio    Date     Time    CRC-32  Attr  Name
 ------  ------   ----- -----    ----     ----   -------- ----  ----
     95  DeflatN     86  10%  03-09-2000  00:33  268b8aeb --wa
     ALERT.!!!
   7840  DeflatN   7840   0%  06-04-2000  16:54  b7d594d8 --wa
   irok.exe 6553  DeflatN   2951  55%  06-04-2000  17:09  2f2cf45c --wa
    IROK.TXT
    105  DeflatN     96   9%  03-09-2000  00:34  9d8d26f7 --wa
    README.COM
     95  DeflatN     86  10%  03-09-2000  00:33  268b8aeb --wa
     VIRUS.!!!
  17038  DeflatN   7154  59%  06-15-1998  18:26  62f65fd7 --wa
  WARNING.YOU
 ------          ------  ---                                    -------
  31726           18213  43%                                          6

Lets see whats inside the irok.txt file! Did you see those warnings?
Pretty obvious I'm not trying to trick them huh? :)

========================================================================
======= As this *is* a replicating virus, it is recommended you use
extreme caution when dealing with it. The author frowns upon
intentional misuse of this virus as it was written for *educational*
purposes only! Any other use is prohibited!
========================================================================
======= Warning: This virus does contain some code which can result in
data loss when triggered. It is not advised to play around with this
virus.

Virus Author.: Raid - [SLAM] June 2000
Virus Name  .: IRoK v1.1c [CoreEngine Fix Release]
Virus Target.: EXE and COM infection.
Virus Size...: 7,840 bytes in length.
Target OS....: DOS - Win3x - Win9x - WinNT - Os2Warp*
               W2k based operating systems have not been tested for
               compatability. This virus may or may not function
               on those operating systems.
Encryption...: Yes - AntiAv v1.07 [Modified]
Payload......: Yes. Time triggered. May cause data loss when triggered.
AntiAV.......: Yes. Vsafe/Vshield & Norton v4/v5 resident blocker
disable. Stealth......: Yes. The infected executable will not be aware
of the virus. Sleep........: Yes. Between 3pm to 5pm*
Worm Ability.: Yes. OutLook And Mirc supported. Irok takes advantage of
               the windows scripting host to handle most of the outlook
               support. Implementing this turned out to be too easy. ;p
========================================================================
======= As this *is* a replicating virus, it is recommended you use
extreme caution when dealing with it. The author frowns upon
intentional misuse of this virus as it was written for *educational*
purposes only! Any other use is prohibited!
========================================================================
=======

Please view the file included with this archive named 'Warning.you' for
more information regarding an anti-viral product you'd be better off
avoiding.

DISCLAIMER:
THE AUTHOR ASSUMES NO LIABILITY WHATSOEVER FOR ANY USE AND/OR MISUSE
RESULTING FROM THIS DOCUMENTATION AND/OR ANY BINARIES INCLUDED.

IRoK's engine has a 'Safe Infect' feature. Which means, until a file
has become infected, IRoK's payloads are off, and it is restricted to
current directory only. Only when IRoK is executed from an infected
file are the payloads and other spreading systems online. This allows
you to safely study IRoK, infecting executables without any risk to
yourself. Of course, this feature was only added for EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSES! The author is not suggesting in any way shape or form, nor
was this routine written to break any laws or suggest to do so in any
way shape or form.

This virus does employ worm support if the infected user makes use of
the mIRC client and has it installed in the default directory.  If
these conditions are met, IRoK will create a new script.ini file
(overwriting any previous ones the user may already have) with
instructions to initiate a DCC send with anyone who joins a channel the
infected user is in. After writing a new script.ini file, irok will
create an executable of itself named irok.exe which is used by the
script for dcc sending the virus as a worm. The executable created is
modified to engage screen saving when launched, So as to hide it's
infectious intentions from the user.

Irok will also attempt to send a message to 65 users listed in the
infected users addressbook if they are an OutLook user. This letter
tells them that Irok is a screen saver taken from paramount pictures
website. The infected user will not be aware of the fact that he is
sending out emails to some of his/her friends and business contacts.
The vbs file responsible for this is only created once by irok, and
does self destruct leaving no evidence behind.

To make disinfection difficult and annoying, This virus employs
AntiAVFuCK (tm) encryption (c) 1998 [Raid slam]. This encryption
technique does pose a risk to your executables. Infected executables
must be handled with caution and properly to prevent date/time stamp
changes, which WILL result in corruption of the file when it is later
executed.

The Outlook support present in this version of Irok is due mostly
because of a generous virus author by the name of Jackie from
Metaphase. He allowed me to borrow the modified section of code that
irok uses for outlook communication. Thanks once again Jackie!

This virus will take advantage of an SVGA card if the user has one
present in his/her system. The effect is similiar to a first person
side view of something (you) flying in space. Depending on your system
speed, the image might fly by too fast to view it, lucky you. Pressing
enter while the screen saver is running will exit it.

IRoK does have built in working sleep routines. However in response to
a certain person who shall remain nameless, They do have the ability to
bring the entire virus back online on a moments Notice. Do you feel
like some russian roulette tonight?

Various lyrics used in the IRoK virus are from assorted Tool and
Nirvana songs which I felt were appropriate for this virus design.

Finally, IRoK does employ some routines which might cause data loss
when and if they should trigger. You may wish to consider backing up
your system before experimenting with this virus. Should something go
wrong, you could wind up losing everything.

- This release is functionally identical to version 1.1a, except it
contains a bug fix. Yes that's right, a fix for a glitch in the
previous version. This glitch did not show up right away during initial
testing. But after examining some antivirus websites and then doing a
bit of experimentation I discovered the virus did not pass the command
line properly! :( This was due to a serious programming error on my
part, which I have since corrected.

- This release is what release v1.1b was supposed to do. However, due
to
  some pisspoor beta-testing on my part, It had some issues.
  This release shouldn't cause anymore "this program has generated an
  illegal function call" error window on win98 based systems. Other
  then some bug fixes and encryption changeouts, Nothing else has been
  changed. A later release may follow which does some new and
  interesting things. Treat this sample as a working-bug fix. Or an
  "upgrade" :)


There are plans in the future to incorporate the "Call home" technology
which is still under development.


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If someone got nailed with that virus, it wasn't my fault. It's clearly
marked and even disabled in the state I released them. See here:

IRoK's engine has a 'Safe Infect' feature. Which means, until a file
has become infected, IRoK's payloads are off, and it is restricted to
current directory only. Only when IRoK is executed from an infected
file are the payloads and other spreading systems online. This allows
you to safely study IRoK, infecting executables without any risk to
yourself. Of course, this feature was only added for EDUCATIONAL
PURPOSES! The author is not suggesting in any way shape or form, nor
was this routine written to break any laws or suggest to do so in any
way shape or form.


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Doesn't apply. My virus wasn't forced on anyone. Someone chose to
download it and attach it to another file. I intentionally crippled my
work.
 
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No. See above. read slow.


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Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution.
Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much.
Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the
way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in
line.


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I don't.

I wish you would stop answering the dribble of this moron and others.

It is no use and it gives me no pleasure having to read the words of
silly nitwits and you in the umpteenth fight over nothing.

Almost half of what is written in this newsgroup, are your answers to
postings that deserve no answer at all, answers to posters since
longtime in my killfile.

Hmm, the solution to my "problem" is obvious.
 ;-)

--
Fred W. (NL)

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I'm sorry you feel that way Fred. I'm unable to comply with your request
so long as I feel my reputation could be placed in harms way.
 
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Again, I'm sorry you feel that way.
 
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Do whatever you need to do.


--
Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution.
Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much.
Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the way.
I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in line.


Re: Ping Ray Lopez


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Hi Fred.

google dustin cook raid.. perhaps that will explain why I choose to
respond to some of the posts made discussing things I may or may not
have done.

It's not just people on usenet reading this stuff. :) The remailer knows
full well what they're doing. They hide for a few reasons. One they have
no idea what I might do if I figured out who they were (shrug.. I doubt
I'd do anything) and two, they'd be legally responsible for
libel/slander in the states with alot of the material. Not all mind you,
but some..

Either way, it's a mess they don't have the balls to handle. Hence, the
remailing.

If it was a usenet only thing and the discussions weren't all over the
web, I'd be able to easily ignore it. However, if I don't speak up every
now and then, it's likely someone reading would buy the BS they're
selling.

Some things don't go away if you just ignore them. it's a nice concept,
but rarely actually works.
 
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As I said, you have no reputation which needs defending. nobody is on an
active web wide smear campaign out to cause you problems. If you were in
my shoes, I don't think you'd have the opinion of this that you
presently do.
 
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As I said, it's not usenet only. Your killfile means nothing. It's all
over the web, it's not just "here".
 

--
Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution.
Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much.
Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the
way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in
line.


Re: Ping Ray Lopez

On Monday, July 23, 2012 12:03:50 AM UTC-4, Dustin wrote:
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Well that may be true--I'll have to keep an eye on your posts in the future=
--but so far I've had most of my admittedly noob questions answered by the =
rest here.  You seem to have some sort of feud going with that other poster=
 in this thread...wonder what you said to set him/her off.  But as they say=
, where there's smoke...there's fire.

Also you sound--with your insistence of respect--like an older man, probabl=
y over 65 years old.  Just saying...  

But what would really be cool is if you posted a simple virus in C language=
 source, heavily commented, so we could learn how viruses work.  That would=
 also give some credibility to the claim that you were a master virus write=
r instead of a 14 year old (or 65 year old) posting from a basement.

C'ya!

RL

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I have no feud going. They're using posts I wrote 10+ years ago to try
and discredit me. I think they're extremely jealous about the fact
nobody has wanted to hang me from a rope, and people tend to like me now
a days...I occasionally respond to rile the person up a bit. It cracks
me up.

Do you know why they post behind a remailer? They're afraid of me, I kid
you not. They've posted that they're concerned I'd do something in
retailation, so they use remailers to protect themselves. Big balls they
got eh? :)


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You just continue to make wild assumptions about me. I enjoy it.
 
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a master virus writer? LOL, No real such thing. It's not a claim, it's
the truth. The anonymous remailer is correct when he states Raid and
myself are the same person and that I wrote some nasty things..

You can google for toadie, krile, kremlin, creed, irok... if you'd like.
they're all mine.
 


--
Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution.
Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much.
Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the
way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in
line.


Re: Ping Ray Lopez


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Not with you. :) Your knowledge of software so far is seriously lacking.
I thought you knew a little more than we all now know, you do. :)
 
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It doesn't matter how old I am. Respect has little to do with Age.

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This is alt.comp.anti-virus. Why should I write some virus in C that you
intend to take credit for and possibly sell to someone?

Who's "we" that needs to learn how viruses work? I already know how they
work. I don't care if you do or not. it's probably best for me that you
don't.

Your intentions aren't noble. You don't want to know how viruses work,
You want me to show you how to write one. Well, you haven't been
respectful. Why should I teach you?


--
Things look bad from over here. Too much confusion and no solution.
Everyone here knows your fear. Your out of touch and you try too much.
Yesterdays glory will help us today. You wanna retire? Get outta the
way. I ain't got much time. Young ones close behind. I can't wait in
line.


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