PING - David Lipman

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Hi Dave......

Can you and/or the rest of the folks clear up a mystery for me.  Sun
Java has always been confusing.

You keep telling people to download 1.5.0_08, and say that it is the
latest and greatest.  Well, I have copied over the test I usually run
before downloading on their site and it is saying that the "07" is the
latest.

I realize there are different names (JRE, JSE, etc)....but do I not have
the latest?  I do, according to Sun Java.

Thanks.....Heather

      We detected your Java environment as follows;
      Description Your Environment

      Java Runtime Vendor: Sun Microsystems Inc.
      Java Runtime Version 1.5.0_07




CONGRATULATIONS, you have the Latest version of Java!


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from the Sun Java site.   I checked it and nothing shows.

Cheers....Heather
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Op 12-9-2006, heeft Heather verondersteld :
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http://java.sun.com/javase/downloads/index.jsp
Look for Java Runtime Environment

jre-1_5_0_08 is the latest (and the greatest?).
Don't forget to "Accept License Agreement" before downloading.

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Fred Wening (NL)



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Thanks Fred......Dave had often given the above link, but I just wasn't
100% sure because there seem to be a few incomprehensible types of
Java.....(jre...jse, etc).

I will remove the old one and this time have a look in the Registry.  I
notice a few Firefox older versions in there as well.

Cheers......Heather (CAN)



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| Thanks Fred......Dave had often given the above link, but I just wasn't
| 100% sure because there seem to be a few incomprehensible types of
| Java.....(jre...jse, etc).
|
| I will remove the old one and this time have a look in the Registry.  I
| notice a few Firefox older versions in there as well.
|
| Cheers......Heather (CAN)
|

Fred is correct.
And it is confusing !

Sun is all screwed up.
We can thank MS MVP MowGreen for getting Sun to to publicly note the
vulnerabilities in Sun
Java v5 Update 5 and below.


FYI:
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-102557-1


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Dave
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Son of a gun!!   It was Mow who sorted me out on Sun Java via email a
long while back....goodonhim!!

The least they could have done was publicly acknowledge his
contribution!!

Running "08" now because of one site that requires it.   Not telling
which game site tho......until someone else admits their addiction to
it, lol.

Cheers....Figgs



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| Son of a gun!!   It was Mow who sorted me out on Sun Java via email a
| long while back....goodonhim!!
|
| The least they could have done was publicly acknowledge his
| contribution!!
|
| Running "08" now because of one site that requires it.   Not telling
| which game site tho......until someone else admits their addiction to
| it, lol.
|
| Cheers....Figgs
|

I was discussing the state of affair with MowGreen back in Oct '05 when the
Vundo Trojan was
at its height.  MowGreen had indicated that privately Sun had acknowledge the
problem and
that something like Jan '05 but didn't make a public statement until their Feb
7, '06
buulletin.
http://sunsolve.sun.com/search/document.do?assetkey=1-26-102171-1


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Dave
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<lol> Now I wonder if its the one that begins with a P and ends with an O
<g>
Joan

Heather wrote:
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jre1.5.0_08 is the latest as Fred says.

Apparently (according to Dave), 07 was released and later withdrawn.

The update facility always tells you that you already have the latest
version whether attempting to upgrade from 06 to 07 or from 07 to 08.
You will have to do it manually. Doesn't inspire too much confidence,
does it?


Jim.


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Certainly doesn't.  And also it adds to the confusion, lol.  I was using
the 06 page and it told me I had 07....yippee.  Nowhere did it say to go
to 08.  Perhaps we should have a work with the higher ups at that
company.  At least I have you guys to ask......but what about newbies??

Cheers......Heather



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What's worse, <http://www.java.com/ , which is supposed to be their
main consumer-oriented site (Hot Games, Cool Apps ;) still offers
update 6 rather than update 8.

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Q

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@registered.motzarella.org:

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Whenever I had Sun Java, my AV program was always finding trojans in the
Java cabs.  It was another thing I had to check for security purposes.
Since I reloaded my OS several months ago, I didn't reinstall Sun Java.
I've yet to need it for any site I've visited.  If I go to a site that has
the javascript link, and it doesn't work, I think twice as to whether it's
worth it to reinstall that ponderous program.  It may be great for Unix,
Apple or Linux OS, but Sun Java for Windows can be very problematic.

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| Whenever I had Sun Java, my AV program was always finding trojans in the
| Java cabs.  It was another thing I had to check for security purposes.
| Since I reloaded my OS several months ago, I didn't reinstall Sun Java.
| I've yet to need it for any site I've visited.  If I go to a site that has
| the javascript link, and it doesn't work, I think twice as to whether it's
| worth it to reinstall that ponderous program.  It may be great for Unix,
| Apple or Linux OS, but Sun Java for Windows can be very problematic.

YMMV -- I never had a problem.

Those are not Java "Cabs", they are Java Jars (ZIP type files).
If you practiced Safe Hex and didn't go to malicious site that you wouldn't have
.CLASS file
with Java Exploit code or Java Trojans found inside or outside Java Jars.

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Like you I don't have it on this machine, haven't been anywhere that I
needed it, just have the Microsoft VM here.
Joan


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eapplegate@pduke.org says...
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Bzzzt!
Java is NOT Javascript.
Entirely different things.
Java - you download an "applet" (program) written in Java which
uses your local Java environment to run
Javascript - code in a webpage which is executed by your
browser (and now also by apps such as Acrobat)

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hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

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You can check what version you have at the ready by opening up a
command prompt then typing java -version. That version is the one
that's used whenever you hit up a java site. If it's not build _08,
you may have to update your path to reflect that.


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"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

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| You can check what version you have at the ready by opening up a
| command prompt then typing java -version. That version is the one
| that's used whenever you hit up a java site. If it's not build _08,
| you may have to update your path to reflect that.
|

The will only show the default running version.

If you have the older, vulnerable, versions they should be removed.

Simple check, look under...
C:\Program Files\Java

The only folder under that folder should be the latest version.

Such as...
C:\Program Files\Java\jre1.5.0_08

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hamburger meat, threw it on the grill, and I said "Oh Wow"...

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Yeah, that's my point. If it's not 1.5.0_08, you need to update your
path so that it points to the new one.

start ---> settings ----> control panel ----> system
select advance tab
select environment variables on the bottom
a window opens up and it's divided into two sections: User Variables
and System Variables
In System Variables, highlight Path and pick edit.

Add this to the end of the Path:

C:\Program Files\Java\jdk1.5.0_08\bin;

You must have a semicolon between the items on your path, so if there
isn't one at the end before you append your java entry, put one in. No
spaces.

Hit OK.

Close out back to the Desktop.

Open up a command prompt, type java -version.

The new hotness should be reflected.

One Note: If you're just running the runtime environment and not the
jdk, the string will be slightly different. I *believe* that you use
jre1.5.8_08 instead but I'm not a hundred percent on that. You might
want to double check to be sure.


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I personally haven't had a problem with that but I've heard of other
people that did have problems due to older version conflicts. OP's
MMV.

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trippy
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NP: "To Live And Die In L.A." -- Wang Chung

"Now, technology's getting better all the time and that's fine,
but most of the time all you need is a stick of gum, a pocketknife,
and a smile."

-- Robert Redford "Spy Game"




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