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Win XP home sp3

Most things function normally but..
When I try to install BitDefender Total Security 2009 or some other
security (anti-virus, anti-malware) programs I get a warning saying
that the installer can=92t write to the folder that=92s there for the
virus definitions.

With some programs, like McAffee, I can install, but then when I try
to run, I get the notice that the program is

 -not a valid Win32 application-.

I get that with Adaware, SpybotS&D, Windows Defender, Norton, and AVG
free.

Unlike other people with the -not a valid Win32 application- problem,
I can open MS Office programs and browsers.

I ran sfc /scannow . I also did the disk cleanup deleting the temp
files. I also did the error checking on the Tools tab of Properties of
the drive. Nothing changed.

Most online scanners didn=92t function. But now I=92m using Trend Micro=92s
online scanner, and it seems to be running. I=92ll see what happens.

~~ Nehmo

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Trend Micro online scanner is stuck on 3 min. I need to try something
else. Suggestions?
~~ Nehmo

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| Win Defender installation failed. Couldn't write to
| mpengine.dll
| ~~ Nehmo

My suggestion is this...
Wipe the PC after backing up your PC's data and reinstall the OS from scratch.


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Dave
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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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David, I've been clicking your signature links for days with no
result. I would have alerted you sooner, but my system is so
corrupted, I wasn't sure if maybe anti-malware links were blocked,
like in the HOSTS file or something. Anyway, the links are dead.
~~ Nehmo

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Both links
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html and
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/sicherheit/35905/multi_av_scanning_tool.html
are responding fine here.

The claymania site doesn't work if you use the ip address, but the pctipp
site does.  Try
http://212.98.39.7/downloads/sicherheit/35905/multi_av_scanning_tool.html

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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Is that because he installed your program?



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No, it's because PCBUTTS blocks access to many very reputable anti-
malware sites because most of the malware community shuns his actions
and his filth that he's posted over the years - so he retaliates by
blocking those people/vendors sites without telling you.

You should avoid anyone that is so unethical.

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Sorry, didn't follow the thread parsing well enough, should have been:

YES, it's because PCBUTTS blocks access to many very reputable anti-
malware sites....

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| I've uninstalled all the antivirus programs. But I can't seem to
| install one and get it to work. I get the not valid Win32 message.
| I've been trying to get any kind of virus scan. I just tried Kasparski
| online scan. It failed with this message:

| Update has failed. Program has failed to start. Close the Kaspersky
| Online Scanner 7.0 window and open it again to install the program.
| You must be online to update the Kaspersky Online Scanner 7 database.
| With the latest database updates, you can find new viruses and other
| threats. Please go online to use Kaspersky Online Scanner 7. [ERROR:
| Scan has failed to start. [0x80004005]]

| I can't reinstall windows because I don't have the install disk.
|  ~~ Nehmo

None are going to work.
Butts' plagiarized and patchworked utility, which has limited functionality and
doesn't
target the malware you have, won't work.
Just about *EVERY* EXE file you try will fail.

Your system is too far gone, throw in the towel.
Wipe the PC after backing up your PC's data and reinstall the OS from scratch.

Believe me, if there was something I could throw your way -- I would.

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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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| a-squared also failed to install. Or maybe it failed to run. I got the
| not a valid Win32 App error.

| I don't run Outlook Express. (I used to use Outlook. Now I just use
| online hotmail.) I don't have the registry keys described.
|  ~~ Nehmo

And you will keep getting "not a valid Win32 App error".

Wipe and reinstall the OS !

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If I were as desperate and determined as he seems to be, I'd remove
the drive, scan it for viruses on another PC, reinstall it in the
original PC and try a repair install. For the repair install, I'd need
to create a Windows CD using the procedure at...

http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

Lots of work and I think your suggestion makes more sense, unless he
has invaluable programs for which he is missing the install
media/files.

Larry

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| If I were as desperate and determined as he seems to be, I'd remove
| the drive, scan it for viruses on another PC, reinstall it in the
| original PC and try a repair install. For the repair install, I'd need
| to create a Windows CD using the procedure at...

| http://www.howtohaven.com/system/createwindowssetupdisk.shtml

| Lots of work and I think your suggestion makes more sense, unless he
| has invaluable programs for which he is missing the install
| media/files.

| Larry

There are benefits and problems to this approach.

The first is that when you scan the hard drive through a surrogate PC, it will
find files
on the affected hard disk but will scan the Registry of the surrogate PC and
thus will not
correct the Registry of the OS of the affected hard drive.  In this case I'd say
the the
Registry was significantly modified.

The second is more generalized.
When you scan the hard disk through a surrogate PC, the anti malware scanner may
remove a
required DLL or EXE file that may be required to load and thus when the drive is
inserted
back into its home PC, the OS may boot into a BSoD condition.  One such example
where this
may happen is with a SubSys trojan which loads via...
HKLM\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Session Manager\SubSystems\windows
and inserts itself into the DLL load chain.  Thus the OS would generate a NT
Stop Error.

STOP: c0000135 {Unable To Locate Component}
This application has failed to start because XXXXXX was not found.

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Thanks for that David.

Larry

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You, David, know more about Windows than I, so please don=92t think I=92m
discounting your advice. Re-installing Windows would be the option a
few steps away, if I had the install CD. I don=92t. I=92d have to get a
new copy.

As I see it now. I next need to try a few more virus scans either
online scans or ones conducted locally if I can somehow install an
anti-virus program.

Perhaps I should try booting in safe mode and then trying to install
or run one of the anti-virus programs or scans.
One program (not actually a scanner) I haven=92t tried yet is
hijackthis. I=92ll then post the results in one of the Hijackthis
groups. Do any of you have a suggestion for where to do that?

If I can=92t do a successful scan, I=92ll try a system restore. I=92ve neve=
r
done that, but I should have enough skill.
I=92ll also try cross-posting to some other groups to get a wider
audience. For those of you just now seeing this thread, you can see
the details of my problem earlier in the thread
http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.anti-virus/browse_thread/thread/997 =
45fdc2c56bfd6

In brief:
Windows XP Home SP3
Most things run OK, MS Office, the browsers, Paint Shop Pro, but they
are slow and the CPU usage is high.
I can=92t seem to install or run any anti-malware program, including
AdAware, AVG free, Windows Defender, Spybot S&D. I get the error
messagenot a valid Win32 application=94 or I get a problem trying to
write something during the installation process.
I did manage to install DriveSentry. But that=92s not a real scanner as
I see it. It did do a scan and deleted a couple of things, but no
improvement.

Please help me.

~~ Nehmo

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| You, David, know more about Windows than I, so please donít think Iím
| discounting your advice. Re-installing Windows would be the option a
| few steps away, if I had the install CD. I donít. Iíd have to get a
| new copy.

| As I see it now. I next need to try a few more virus scans Ė either
| online scans or ones conducted locally if I can somehow install an
| anti-virus program.

| Perhaps I should try booting in safe mode and then trying to install
| or run one of the anti-virus programs or scans.
| One program (not actually a scanner) I havenít tried yet is
| hijackthis. Iíll then post the results in one of the Hijackthis
| groups. Do any of you have a suggestion for where to do that?

| If I canít do a successful scan, Iíll try a system restore. Iíve never
| done that, but I should have enough skill.
| Iíll also try cross-posting to some other groups to get a wider
| audience. For those of you just now seeing this thread, you can see
| the details of my problem earlier in the thread
| http://groups.google.com/group/alt.comp.anti-virus/browse_thread/thread /
| 99745fdc2c56bfd6

| In brief:
| Windows XP Home SP3
| Most things run OK, MS Office, the browsers, Paint Shop Pro, but they
| are slow and the CPU usage is high.
| I canít seem to install or run any anti-malware program, including
| AdAware, AVG free, Windows Defender, Spybot S&D. I get the error
| message ďnot a valid Win32 applicationĒ or I get a problem trying to
| write something during the installation process.
| I did manage to install DriveSentry. But thatís not a real scanner as
| I see it. It did do a scan and deleted a couple of things, but no
| improvement.

| Please help me.

| ~~ Nehmo

Download and execute HiJack This! (HJT)
http://www.trendsecure.com/portal/en-US/_download/HJTInstall.exe

It will install as;  "C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\HijackThis.exe"
If the file does not run, go to;  "C:\Program Files\Trend Micro\HijackThis\"
Rename HijackThis.exe to  HJT.com

Create a log and then post the contents of the HJT log in your post in the below
expert
forum...

{ Please - Do NOT post the HJT Log here ! }

NOTE: Registration is REQUIRED in any of the below before posting a log

http://www.thespykiller.co.uk/index.php?board=3.0

Post that I directed you there.

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Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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HijackThis won't run, even after I rename it. I get the same error:
not a valid Win32 application.
Something is declaring all these programs as invalid for Win32. I'm
going to try to boot in safe mode, and then run. I've never done this
before. I don't think it will be a problem.
~~ Nehmo

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Using MSconfig, on the general tab, I used diagnostic startup to
eliminate possible interference. HijackThis (renamed) still wouldn't
run.

~~ Nehmo

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You earlier posted the actual error code.  A google search on that error
code, limited to m$ sites will give you the commands needed to correct it.

In my opinion, you need to format/reinstall, with a valid m$ install cd.

If you don't have an install cd, you would be much better off switching
to linux.  It's become much simpler to install then it used to be, and
if you're willing to invest some time learning the differences, it's
actually easier to use.

Regards, Dave Hodgins

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I think your computer is infected by a unknow infect-virus, all apps
display 'Win322 error ' after you run the app,  probable cause of  the
virus will infect the app when the system prepare to run it by hook
some API. After insert the virus data, it's destroy the original file.
so, you'd better submit the sample's to antivirus vendor online which
file show  error dialog, then wait for them reply, after the vendor
can REPAIR the samples, remove the drive, scan it for viruses on
another PC, reinstall it in the original PC unless the antivirus
software detect a lot of viruses.
here are some vendores email address:

webmaster@symantec.com
sample@nod32.com
samples@sophos.com
newvirus@kaspersky.com
virus_research@avertlabs.com

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You're saying I should just submit one of the programs that won't run?
I think the programs are still intact. I just tried to run
MS malicious software removal tool which didn't even finish
extracting. Extraction failed such&such is not a valid Win 32
application.

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Posting is getting very slow. The response time from keyboard to
cursor is long. I should be able to find what's eating up the
resources or cpu activity.
~~ Nehmo

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