MS Windows Live One Care

Do you have a question? Post it now! No Registration Necessary.  Now with pictures!

Threaded View
OK, I bought the package that allows installation on three machines.
Is this antivirus/spyware program any good? What do you think?
-Pete



Re: MS Windows Live One Care


| OK, I bought the package that allows installation on three machines.
| Is this antivirus/spyware program any good? What do you think?
| -Pete
|

You should have asked PRIOR to purchasing it !

No.  As an anti virus product it falls way short of it peers.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: MS Windows Live One Care

David H. Lipman wrote:
Quoted text here. Click to load it

To beat a metaphor to death, you are asking the fox to guard the henhouse.

1) Do any of the One Care Live components alert you to _concerns_
about WGA, dnsapi.dll, Sony rootkits, etc.,?

2) When new IE/OE exploits surface, will One Care Live warn you to use
another browser/client until the next second Tuesday?

3) And don't forget the Claria fiasco. MS has partnered with so many
companies, do you really think that an MS security product will blow
the whistle on one of them when privacy concerns arise?

Ron :)

Re: MS Windows Live One Care


| David H. Lipman wrote:
Quoted text here. Click to load it
|>> OK, I bought the package that allows installation on three machines.
|>> Is this antivirus/spyware program any good? What do you think?
|>> -Pete
|>>
Quoted text here. Click to load it
|
| To beat a metaphor to death, you are asking the fox to guard the henhouse.
|
| 1) Do any of the One Care Live components alert you to _concerns_
| about WGA, dnsapi.dll, Sony rootkits, etc.,?
|
| 2) When new IE/OE exploits surface, will One Care Live warn you to use
| another browser/client until the next second Tuesday?
|
| 3) And don't forget the Claria fiasco. MS has partnered with so many
| companies, do you really think that an MS security product will blow
| the whistle on one of them when privacy concerns arise?
|
| Ron :)

The Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool, MRT.EXE, is purported to remove
the Sony DRM
RootKit.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: MS Windows Live One Care

David H. Lipman wrote:

Quoted text here. Click to load it

IIRC, that happened after Mark Russinovich blew the whistle. Alas, one
less whistleblower ... sigh.

BTW, a couple that I forgot:

1) Windows Media Player. (Where is Far Canal when you need him? [g])
Will One Care Live/Windows Defender alert the user when Microsoft
Updates resets all of the security settings in WMP? And, IIUC, this
includes the Flashcrap settings that can only be reset from the
Macromedia/Adobe web site.

2) ActiveX, of course, goes without saying. I always found it humorous
(or not!) when MSAS alerted me that I was installing SW's IESPYAD or
Enough is Enough!, but had no problem whatsoever when I reset IE6's
security level to default. I will assume that One Care Live/Windows
Defender is similarly proprietarily selective about what is unsecure
and what is not.

Ron :)

Re: MS Windows Live One Care



|
| IIRC, that happened after Mark Russinovich blew the whistle. Alas, one
| less whistleblower ... sigh.
|
| BTW, a couple that I forgot:
|
| 1) Windows Media Player. (Where is Far Canal when you need him? [g])
| Will One Care Live/Windows Defender alert the user when Microsoft
| Updates resets all of the security settings in WMP? And, IIUC, this
| includes the Flashcrap settings that can only be reset from the
| Macromedia/Adobe web site.
|
| 2) ActiveX, of course, goes without saying. I always found it humorous
| (or not!) when MSAS alerted me that I was installing SW's IESPYAD or
| Enough is Enough!, but had no problem whatsoever when I reset IE6's
| security level to default. I will assume that One Care Live/Windows
| Defender is similarly proprietarily selective about what is unsecure
| and what is not.
|
| Ron :)

I find it amazing that as many anti virus companies are appluad ActiveX to the
point of
requiring it to use their respective online anti malware software.

The one difference is Trend Micro.  You can either use an ActiveX or Sun Java
based anti
virus scan of a PC.

Getting back to the Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool (MRT), it is
updated for new
threats more often then say McAfee Stinger which is now a stale tool.  It runs
periodically
with new MS Updates and even if it it can't remove the malwarae (which I have
run into News
posts which indicate it failed) it alarms on its existence so you can use other
tools like
my Multi AV Scanning Tool to remove it.  The list of trageted infectors is
growing.

As a full time anti virus solution OneCare only gets a subset of what all its
peer vendors
catch and remove.  I supply all my samples to Microsoft and I expect a good
turn-aroun time.
Virus Total helps and so does the http://safety.live.com/site/en-US/default.htm
web site.

How long should I expect them to take a sample and detect it.  Microsoft does
this in a poor
time frame taking too long.

BTW:  Trend Micro has two levels of submission support.  Residential consumers
and
enterprise contracts.  Residential consumers experience poor time frames and
taking too long
to put out signatures on a given subission.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: MS Windows Live One Care

says...
Quoted text here. Click to load it

 I was cleaning up a machine on Friday - a freshly installed and
updated Windows Defender found nothing, but Lavasoft's Ad-Aware
found 98 items of interest, several critical, and SpyBot S&D
found a couple more after that.

--
The accident involved dark chocolate.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/5264566.stm?ls

Re: MS Windows Live One Care

Pete wrote:
Quoted text here. Click to load it
You *bought* a product without knowing anything about it?

Re: MS Windows Live One Care

x-no-archive: yes

Quoted text here. Click to load it
"Anything" is a bit extreme. I knew they did beta testing, they are MS, it
did allow three installations, and Costo had it for only $32.
So, I took a calculated risk.
-Pete



Re: MS Windows Live One Care



| "Anything" is a bit extreme. I knew they did beta testing, they are MS, it
| did allow three installations, and Costo had it for only $32.
| So, I took a calculated risk.
| -Pete
|

Insufficient criteria !

You have to examine the niche that the software was designed for and you needed
to look into
how well that software performed.

I'm sure when you bought your last car you used better criteria in its purchase.

When it comes to anti virus, you need to look at...

Catch rate
Heuristics
"On Demand" and On "Access Scanning" scanning settings and abilities
Ability to cope with new threats
Ability of the vendor to generate new signatures in a timely fashion for a given
infector
Ability to scan iside numerous archive file types
Ability to scan within installer packaged files.

There's more but that'll do for now.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



Re: MS Windows Live One Care

Pete wrote:
Quoted text here. Click to load it

May not be too big a risk since Costco has a very liberal returns policy.

Lou
I eat my peas with honey.
I've done it all my life.
It makes the peas taste funny.
But it keeps them on my knife.

Site Timeline