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Thanks to all who answer here....it's really appreciated.  Does Avira
AntiVir Personal scan incoming & outgoing emails?  I did a test and sent out
a 3MB picture to myself and it was very slow going out but faster receiving.
Also, should it show in the email somewhere...I have seen NOD32 wording in
email I have received from others?  The reason I ask is I am not seeing
anything on the desktop/screen that says it is scanning.  I did do the
"test" and I got an email in my INBOX but I am a little anxious using a new
program.  Any feedback would be great!



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Tass wrote:

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There is no need to scan Incoming and Outgoing mail.
http://tekrider.net/general/misctips.php#avscan

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Well, nearly all ISPs (at least those I am aware of) have a fast
_download_ speed, and a much slower _upload_ speed. Yours is probably
the same.

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Show what?

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Any insertion of any text into an email message by an anti-virus program
is nothing more than an advertisement. There is no way any of them can
actually guarantee an attachment is virus-free. If yours is doing this,
turn it off.

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Since your a-v should be running in the background, such notifications
would soon get annoying...

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   -bts
   -"Windows - Life Without Walls™"      <-- recent MS TV ad
   -(Aha. So that's how all the viruses get in!)

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http://www.free-av.com/en/pages/6/comparative_chart.html



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I have read the above but I have to confess the part about the email being
enhanced, I don't understand what that means.  Does it or does it not scan
emails as the are coming in and going out it?  Could anyone please tell me
which good antivirus scans emails as they are incoming and outgoing?  I know
Norton does this.  Please reply.



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Are we talking free versions? I believe AVG and Avast! both have this
unneeded and generally not recommended option.



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Does Avira free edition scan emails as they are incoming & outgoing?  Do you
honestly think that scanning emails is unneeded and unnecessary?  If so why?



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I don't believe so, but for an authoritative answer you should contact
them.

Yes, I do.

Because of the computing cost being too high for the very small
advantage it might yield. This assumes the scanner being used is also
used to scan files "on-access" on the same system (which is usually the
case).



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Tass wrote:

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They all do, if you turn on the option. Probably on by default.

But as I said earlier today, it is not necessary and is a waste of
resources. Read my link.

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   -bts
   -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

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http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,1864580,00.asp



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On 03/06/2009 06:06 AM, FromTheRafters sent:
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Hello FTR:

I couldn't help but notice that the pcmag.com article is at least 3 1/2
years old.

Pete
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Hmmm.

Do you suppose things have changed?

I installed both Avast! and AntiVir at about the same time, and my
saying "no" to e-mail scanning is so automatic that I don't remember if
AntiVir even asked during the setup. I *do* know that my AntiVir has an
SMTP client so that it can *send* an e-mail as a feature. I see no other
indication that it scans e-mail (other than perhaps the temp files for
detecting text based Phishing attempts).

I didn't say *yes* and I didn't say *no* to the OP because it wasn't
asked about "viruses" or "attachments" only "e-mails". My posts were for
informational (feedback) use only.

To the OP:

You could contact Avira and ask them, and perhaps share the answer they
give you with us. That is - if you still care about e-mail scanning
after reading all of the 'pros' and 'cons' (mostly cons) sure to follow.



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When you are using an AV program, I thought that the main reason for
scanning email in & out is for viruses/trojans etc.



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E-mail is the main vector for many types of malware. AV is a tool to
help you to avoid getting malware active on your system. A very good
place to intervene on your behalf is by scanning a file's contents when
that file is accessed. The vector doesn't matter as much here, because
it would have to get here to be executed no matter where it came from.
Using the "same eyes" to scan incoming e-mail after decoding and
whatever else it has to do just seems like overkill.

It is not completely useless, it can stop you from passing inactive
e-mail vector malware through your system.



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On 03/06/2009 07:38 AM, FromTheRafters sent:
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I believed that needed to be pointed out.  The spin doctors for those
providers would probably have you believe they are entirely new
products.  That much time /is/ equivalent to a lifetime in this business.

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I too have tested Avast! and now I'm at the end of the first month
testing AntiVir.  You should know that I agree with you almost 100% of
the time.

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Pete
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1PW  @?6A62?FEH9:DE=6o2@=]4@> [r4o7t]

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I got the impression that they (rightfully) considered it 'fluff' and
only offered it in the paid versions. :o)



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How about this - a little more than halfway down:

http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-9919454-12.html




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Tass wrote:

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Not in the free version.  You didn't mention WHICH one you have: free
or paid.

http://www.free-av.com/en/download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html

Free version has no e-mail protection (which is superfluous so don't
worry about losing it, especially since many users have to disable it
due to timeouts between the e-mail client and mail server).

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VanguardLH wrote:
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http://www.free-av.com/en/download/1/avira_antivir_personal__free_antivirus.html
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This link http://www.download.com/8301-2007_4-9919454-12.html claims the
free version does check outgoing mail. Seems to me without it there is
no protection if a user simply forwards an attachment without opening it
first. I don't know the details, but I recently installed Elements 6 and
it took 10 secs to import an image using AVG 8. In addition, the first
time I would open certain folders in windows explorer I would wait a few
seconds for the panel to display.
With Avira, my image load time in Elements is halved and windows
explorer exhibits no delay. AVG 7 never slowed my system. I would highly
recommend Avira.
Dave Cohen

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Dave Cohen wrote:

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Either the reviewer mixed up the features from the paid and free
versions or was reviewing a trial version.  I'm pretty sure Avira knows
what is in each version of their own products.  The reviewer misleads
the reader because the reviewer doesn't have a clue as for what this
e-mail function.  He confused the e-mail *alert* function available in
both the freeware and payware versions with the e-mail scanner module
that is only in the paid version.

Tis easy enough to test (if you already have VirtualPC, VMWare,
VirtualBox, or another virtual machine manager installed).

- Start your virtual machine that loads Windows as a guest OS.
- To to http://www.free-av.com/ to get the freeware version (not a trial
  version from their main site).
- Download and install the freeware version.  Again, make sure you pick
  the "AntiVir Personal" freeware version, not the link to the premium
  trialware version.
- If you select the custom installation (to see what components will get
  installed), those listed are:  core engine, real-time guard, rootkit
  scanner, and Explorer shell extension.  No e-mail module is listed.
- Once you have completed the installation, open their GUI.  Under
  "Local Protection", you will see the on-demand and on-access (guard)
  modules listed.  No e-mail module.

The freeware version does NOT interrogate your e-mails for malware.  The
SMTP support in the freeware version is to send *alerts* to an admin for
that host to notify them about the malware that was detected using the
on-access scanner (real-time guard) that is running on that host.  These
alerts are sent to just one specific e-mail address (i.e., the assigned
admin for that host).  This is to compensate for the lack of enterprise
support for alert reporting via messages from the client hosts to a
security server.  None of this involves interrogating your inbound or
outbound e-mails for malware.

Avast better explains the purpose of this SMTP e-mail configuration
setting by saying, "Note: These settings are used when avast! itself
needs to send an e-mail.  They are not related to e-mail virus
protection."  The freeware version of Avast does include e-mail scanning
(but I disabled that module).  This SMTP e-mail function is for alerts
to let the product notify whomever is the admin for that host that a
pest was discovered - and, for the freeware version of Avira, that pest
was NOT discovered by interrogating e-mail traffic.

Again, use the version comparison chart at Avira's own site to see what
is missing in the freeware version.  Also, and according to their
feature comparison list, the payware version only scans e-mail over POP
and SMTP.  IMAP isn't listed.  All 3 e-mail protocols are supported in
Avast - and in its freeware version, too.

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Dave Cohen wrote:

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Regarding the scanning of attachments in outbound e-mails (which Avira's
freeware version does NOT support scanning of e-mails), Avast has an
option to scan an attachment *when* you attach it to an e-mail but only
for the Outlook add-on.  You never mention WHAT e-mail client you use.

Scanning the attachment while you are composing the e-mail eliminates
having to scan it when you try to send it.  Interrogating e-mails during
transmission *will* cause delays in delivery and what causes timeouts.
This won't eliminate the delay to interrogate the attachments on inbound
e-mails but will eliminate the portion of the delay to interrogate
attachments in outbound e-mails.  That means there is far less chance of
a timeout when sending an outbound e-mail because the attachment portion
of it has already been scanned.  Since the attachment is scanned when
you decide to attach it, and because it occurs in parallel, you can
continue composing your e-mail.  This feature (to scan on attach rather
than rely on decoding the attachment during the send) is only available
in the Outlook shield (an add-on to Outlook).

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