If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

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I'm thinking to release a C# .NET 4 Framework freeware program executable t=
o Usenet.  I will run the executable through one of those programs through =
an MD5 hash function generators to generate a checksum.

Some questions

1/ nothwithstanding http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD5 and apparently the MD5=
 checksum is broken, I think for most small scale non-commercial routine fr=
eeware purposes the MD5 method is 'good enough' to guarantee security for a=
 simple program like mine, which is nothing commercial and will simply calc=
ulate some chess scores.  It's unlikely a sophisticated hacker (not Dustin =
mind you, I said sophisticated) will try and generate the same file signatu=
re with a virus attached.  Agree?

2/ as it will be a C# program, I will run it through the 'Community Obfusca=
tor' in Visual Studio 2010, but is there any way that somebody can reverse =
engineer the code and figure out what machine, or worse, which author, prod=
uced it?  Because I also code with this same version of VS other commercial=
 quality code under my real name?  Does VS leave a serial number embedded i=
n the IL (see: NET Framework intermediate language, http://www.dotnetperls .=
com/il)?  But even if it does, I don't see how they would link this release=
d freeware to my other stuff easily, though I'd hate for somebody to attach=
 a virus to it then have people irate at the real me, thinking I did it.

3/ A good free site for anonymous public FTP and for attaching screenshots =
is?  I know of a few places already but want others opinions.  I wish to up=
load the program, with screenshots and a page of instructions.  It's not a =
big program, so space is not an issue.

Thanks to all who reply.  Yes Dave L. I will post this in another forum as =
well.

RL

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

RayLopez99 was thinking very hard :
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I'm not sure, but I got the impression that MD5 was shown to be weak in
the respect that one can simultaneously create two different programs
with the same digest. This is different from being able to create a
program that matches the digest of a preexisting program. IOW the
algorithm is attacked in such a way as to allow one to create a pair of
programs, perhaps one malignant and one benign, and put the benign one
'out there' to earn a good reputation for reputation based detectors -
and later putting the malignant one 'out there' to take advantage of
its digest being historically of good reputation.

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Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?


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Lame.. why .net? Not all of us like that shit you know. Some diehard
freeware users will avoid it because of the .net dependency bullshit you
forced upon them.
 
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I won't answer any of them. Just taunt you a little. ;p troll for troll.
 
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Have you learned how a prepender works yet? That's so funny reading
back, I'll ask again. Do you know how a prepender works yet?

It's still just as funny! :) Damn Ray, I wish you understood.
 
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HAHAAHAHAHA...
This question I will answer; so you don't hand something over to me that
you probably don't wanna do. Yes. Your compiler will tag your work.

I don't know about commercial quality, from what I know of your
understanding of programming, it's quite pathetic. Hobbyist, maybe...


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You're a millionaire.. or so you've said. why leech somebody elses shit?
Buy your own server, you bum.
 
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Anybody who does reply with helpful answers to you at this point is an
idiot and deserves whatever punishment you give them. I might even join
you. :)


--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Monday, October 15, 2012 2:28:37 AM UTC+3, Dustin wrote:
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The question was on MD5. The answer (from another post) is SHA-1 is superio=
r.  As for the .NET framework, it comes built into Windows 7.  You are out =
of touch, once again.

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But you did answer, below.  So you lied here, or are inconsistent.

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Why don't you tell me what it is, and how it's relevant to a .NET program?

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No, the consensus (from another thread) is that Visual Studio IL compiled p=
rograms do not leave a Serial Number embedded in the IL.  I too find that h=
ard to believe but that's what people are saying.  If you have different in=
formation please let's hear it, but I think you're smoke blowing, as usual.


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Or maybe you're using one of the programs I wrote now...

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Ha ha.  Shows how stupid you are.  Buying your own server and making it tru=
ly anonymous requires setting it up outside the USA.  Too much work for a f=
reeware release.  Probably I'll just use FileSend and have anybody who want=
s it email me and I'll send them the FileSend link.  Or I'll find one of th=
ese free webhosting accounts.

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Well your answers were not helpful, they were flat out wrong, and you are a=
n idiot.=20

RL

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Ray I think your interesting questions have gone right over Dustin's head
and he's bluffing that he won't help when the truth is that he probably
can't!   :)

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?


 
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His questions are simplistic. I've posted source snippits to a virus so
that he could learn how they worked. That was way beyond his
understanding. I have since posted simple assembler programs which print a
single line of text on the screen and create a file with the same line of
text. Ray was unable to explain any of the lines of code.

Ray doesn't compare to me. I have no problems keeping up with his
questions.

When you learn to show a little respect, You might get fruitful discussion
from me. So long as you remain anal and trollish, you'll get the treatment
and ridicule you so richly deserve.


--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got bills
to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for free. Oh No.
I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish I could. Oh no
there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our eyes for good.




Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 1:33:11 AM UTC+3, Bear wrote:
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It's true Jax.  Dustin is good for writing simple Dos assembly language cod=
e that  you can copy and paste--I have one such book myself--and impress st=
rangers on Usenet.  But for serious hacking today the mafias all over the w=
orld turn to Russian and Eastern European programmers who don't talk much i=
f at all in English.  Dustin talks too much and is too fluent in English to=
 be a real player in the black hat hacking arts.  I give him attention just=
 to flatter him--it's a form of trolling.

RL

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?


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Dustin is not a bad guy when he stops trying to puff himself up. Trouble is
he can't stop telling us how good he is. I wish he would cool it and realize
he was once okay but he isn't the best there's ever been. He never seems to
be at complete peace with himself and it leads him to make exaggerated
claims.

Just saying.

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

RayLopez99 presented the following explanation :
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What is "Dos assembly code"?



Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?


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Try this.... http://www.google.co.uk/search?q=%22Dos+assembly+code%22

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 11:35:45 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99

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that  you can copy and paste--I have one such book myself--and impress strangers
on Usenet.  But for serious hacking today the mafias all over the world turn to
Russian and Eastern European programmers who don't talk much if at all in
English.  Dustin talks too much and is too fluent in English to be a real player
in the black hat hacking arts.  I give him attention just to flatter him--it's a
form of trolling.
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    I fully agree with you Ray. The first thing I did back in my
cracker days was learn Russian and East European assembly.
    Really disappointing Dustin was never good enough to learn all
that communist binary stuff. English binary is soooo passť.
    TIC
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

Shadow has brought this to us :
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That Red binary stuff was hard to read - what - with the ones all
upside down and the zeroes backwards.



Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Thu, 18 Oct 2012 22:34:23 -0400, FromTheRafters

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    I used two mirrors, one to get them straight, and the other to
put them in sequence again. Pity Dustin never got that deep into the
science.
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?


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It's NOT built into systems prior to windows 7. Don't assume idiot that
everyone is running the latest koolaid MS forces down peoples throats.
Not if you want to make it as a viable freeware author.
 
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I was doing you a favor.
 
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It's one method which can be used to infect a .net executable. It's a
pretty solid infection technique. As your a .net programmer (hehehe..
okay), I thought that would be revelent to you.

I could tell you what it is, but in all reality, the word "prepender"
already does. But alas, you'd rather be a pita and troll; so I will
continue to taunt and have a little fun at your expense until you
smarten up. Pretty simple.
 
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They don't leave a serial number unless you're using 3rd party
registered libraries. However, your! programming style! DOES leave a
signature which could be identified and determine if your the same
person who wrote commercial program (a) vs the guy who wrote freeware
program (a).
 
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You didn't write Xnews. [g]. As most of the apps I use are of a rather
technical nature, I *know* you didn't write them either.
 
You can't tell me how a prepender virus works, so theres no way you
wrote any apps I use which process exe header information. [g]

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You could always post it to various freeware sites. they'll scan it,
review it and even host it for you in some places. Shows how stupid I
am? Really? LOL. I disagree. And as long as you continue to be a
childish prick, I'll treat you as one.
 
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All answers I give you that are right on the money, you will never
acknowledge. [g] So don't waste our time. We both know your full of
shit.


--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




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Dustin, smartphones won't run Windows 98 or XP. Get up to date! When Win 8 is
out the future will have arrived in the present.

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Wed, 17 Oct 2012 22:37:33 +0100, Bear wrote:

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And you'll be permanently in the past as always.

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Says who? I've got a new droid.. she runs fine here with XP. [g]


--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got bills
to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for free. Oh No.
I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish I could. Oh no
there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our eyes for good.




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By that I mean I can sync it.. and do whatever I need to do as if I was
using it from the phone itself... [g] It runs the google OS of course.


--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Wednesday, October 17, 2012 2:17:39 AM UTC+3, Dustin wrote:
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OK, understood.  Not a bad point.  Programming is a small world.

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OK please then tell me the freeware site that will scan your upload and host
it--but from an anonymous login.  I don't want attribution, unlike you.
"Thanks" if you come though with this--somehow I doubt it.

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No, I'm actually way ahead of where you think I am.

RL

Re: If I release a C# executable, can some azz whole like Dustbin attach a virus to it?

On Sun, 14 Oct 2012 23:28:36 GMT, Dustin wrote:

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http://www.virusbtn.com/resources/glossary/prepender.xml

Reading is FUNdamental. Over here in the peanut gallery we thing
this thread is a real hoot. Keep it up Dustin.
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