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Re: How to load DVD-ROMS with a virus

gufus wrote:
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Oh, I bet you've got a tool. Just might not look like mine.  ;-) And my
response was not to you. It was to Gay Guy. Try to keep up, OK?

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 > Oh, I bet you've got a tool. Just might not look like mine.
 >; -) And my response was not to you. It was to Gay Guy. Try
 > to keep up, OK?

Naaaa....
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Re: How to load DVD-ROMS with a virus

Hello, Gay!

On Sat, 23 Apr 2011 18:06:25 -0500

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<grin>

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Re: How to load DVD-ROMS with a virus

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Could be a hardware problem.  Often that's mistaken as a virus.  For
instance, I installed memory, it did not seat correctly, and I got all
kinds of 'virus-like' symptoms.  Thus a virus with no name.  But once
I reseated the memory the 'virus' went away.

RL

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2dbd01b4799e@k3g2000prl.googlegroups.com:

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What virus like symptoms? Describe them. I know what happens if ram is
bad and/or seated incorrectly and it causes errors which are not virus
like at all. Any hardware geek would know what was up pretty damn
quickly. So what did you experience? And don't lie, other pc techs roam
these halls. :)


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;-)



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Re: How to load DVD-ROMS with a virus

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Really?  Well that's your opinion.  I got stuff like USB hub would not
work.  Got stuff like taking forever to load programs.  And all this
after the memtest that's famous and used for testing RAM passed with
flying colors for this improperly seated memory.  Seating the memory
solved the virus like false positive.

RL

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While it's my opinion, it's that of an expert in antimalware and that
of a certified PC technician. <G>

Taking forever to load programs is the result of your system running on
a stick (assuming you only have two) less of ram. It's why it passed
the memcheck; You should have noticed it wasn't detecting the correct
amount of ram tho...*shrug*. That's on you, imo. Luckily for you, the
unseated ram wasn't crossing any power pins and was far enough out that
the system didn't see it during post, otherwise.. well, You might be
replacing a system board.

Without further accurate information, I couldn't determine what would
cause your USB hub failure. Although, I doubt it was related to
unseated ram. <G>

Based on what you've posted, I see no indications of a virus. Do you
have anything further and more specific?
 


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Well that's interesting.  Maybe I should pay more attention to what
you say.  At least you are not claiming, like Dave here, that you
wrote code used by all the anti-virus people in industry.  That would
be ludicrous.

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Interesting.  I don't have any logs for the memory tester, but I would
have noticed something as obvious as the memory tester not detecting
the full amount of memory--I would have hoped.  But perhaps not--in
which case it would have been a glaring mistake.

As for your comment about crossing power pins, I wouldn't think badly
seated memory could do that--to short a mobo--but I take it you speak
with some experience.

I just reviewed my notes on the incident in question:  besides
reseating the memory, the SATA hard drive connections were reset/
reseated.  So perhaps a faulty connection with the SATA drives also
was a problem?

In any event it was not a virus--unless viruses exist that
automatically delete themselves after a few reboots or time passed
(I'm sure there's at least one or two that do this).

RL

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Dave wasn't claiming that. He did write a nice front end for a variety of
antivirus tools tho. The app, Multi_AV is pretty sharp man. You should
put whatever issues you have with Dave aside and give it a try for
yourself.
 
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Myself? No. However, I've seen enough of them in the shop and on service
calls. :)
 


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A better FRONT end?  You mean the GUI?  I could care less about the
front end--I want to know about the back end, the engine that catches
the malware.

But aside from that, in your practical experience how much "more
better" can you get if you run several AV / malware engines, one after
the other?  It always seemed to me to be an exercise in futility.
That is, if you run (like I do) the free Comodo AV tool, and then you
run Norton or what have you afterwards (and keep in mind on a large HD
even with a fast multi-core microprocessor it takes several hours for
the tests to run, at least on my machines they do), what are the
chances you'll find some malware that the first AV engine missed?  I
would imagine it's less than 1% of the time--and I'm taking actual
malware, not false positives (as it is well known certain engines are
very aggressive and will give a slew of false positives).

Same question for running some AV tests "intensively", which is an
option some engines have for testing each file for more than just the
header / footer byte signatures, which takes more time.  How often to
they result in finding more actual viruses / malware?

RL

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GUI if you want to call it that, sure. It has multiple backends or
engines.
 
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Each program has it's own way of looking for things it considers to be
malware. As each program does this in it's own way; it's entirely
possible (and often happens) one will catch something the other has no
clue about until it's next update.

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Most AV engines do more than examine the header and footer. :) They
have to detect completely non-viral things these days too.

Needless to say, if you personally feel it's a waste of time I won't be
able to convince you otherwise. Do what you wish with the information
I've provided. My computers work. :)


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