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Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?


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You think so?

Okay...

Prepender
Appender
Overwriter
Cavity Infector
Companion
Word macro/script
and bat

that doesn't include the various features the virus might employ:

residency
stealth
polymorphism
antidebug
payloads

You're *way* out of your league on this subject HT. I'm not a script
kiddy like you.

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Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?


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boot sector, and multipartite style. (these are boot sector and one of the
above)

This doesn't include worm functionality that some viruses employ. Not all
viruses are worms tho. Not all worms are also viruses.

Confusing yet? [g]
 


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Not all viruses are Trojan Horses.
Not all Trojan Horses are also viruses.
But you believe you know it all,

For here in this news Groups one can Send,
A HTML script Virus by a <iframe></iframe> ,
But you are out to Confuse all in this news groups,
by your name calling.

< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_ (malware) >
< http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTML_e-mail

Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?


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Umm, no.. not really. a virus has to replicate. that's what seperates it
from a trojan. To be even finer, a virus requires a host; a worm does
not.

Hence, some viruses/worms are infact both. Irok can drop an independent
completely functional exe of itself which will travel via email and irc,
and it will also insert itself into .exe and .com files already present
on your computer. If you later run any of them, they will continue to
spread irok and then run as you had expected. If you copy one to another
computer, you'll give that computer irok... [g] Irok is like the cold.
hehehe.


I don't know everything. I've never said I did. However, I do know some
things well. Viruses would be one of those things.
 
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I'm not intentionally trying to confuse anybody here. Ray asked about
viruses, I've been trying to show him a thing or two. You decided you'd
show me a thing or two, but you don't seem to know much about the topic.
You should just sit back and take notes.
 
Script is lame, btw...


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Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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 Being like cold,
going to another computer,
travel via Network,

Become you open the the Gateway,
and send a package call Irok the viruses,
and windows did not detect a problems,
make it a Trojan Package.......
 
 
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Good to see you came back to earth...


 >> For here in this news Groups one can Send,
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I just do not get this Ray Lopez in the first place,
With old School idea's of malware effect a program,
and get loaded by Windows,
For not so ease with Windows Visa, 7&8
and Windows 9 Beta too...

for after XP, Windows started,
be like more like Lexus OS...
  

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It does all of those things. It can use your help, or try and do it by
itself. yes. It's somewhat internet aware.

Toadie, on the other hand, was the first actual pegasus email virus.
It was stealthy about it too. As a result, pegasus now lets you know if
you have outbound attachments; it didn't use to.
 
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Nope. It's not a trojan. It replicates. It does have some payloads
(goodies), but it's not a trojan. It's a virus AND a worm.

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You don't understand. The method my viruses used for infection could be
duplicated in a modern language and still work fine under those OSes.
Some user social engineering would be required for an initial run, but..
after that, the box is yours.

OTH, I tested Irok v1.1c in windows vista 32bit edition.. under vm; it
infact does function as expected... The primary payload works too. :(

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Not much...UAC is hardly more like linux.


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Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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Why a good sand-box is need for via Network between computer..
to help your anti-virus detect virus, it not a 100%,
but 94% it better that nothing,
But it email, Newsgroups,
or just file sharing a crossing the home NetWork,
All need a Sand-Box.......  
 
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Yes after that the box is all yours..

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Why the :(
I did F-up with my win3.1 a week a go,
have to reinstall it or may go win-Me...
But I know it need to go with a 64bit LOOL...
For that I am working will not work on a 32bit..

look forward in see G.M,
doing a reinstall,
as the old saying go:

If you play with a fire,
Expect to get burn,
Playing with Firebugs,
Expect to get wisdom..

 
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True,
But User Account Control was needed,
for Microsoft Clients did not understand it,
with it came out on windows vista,
and they install and run back to XP.......    

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It detonated... It's a pain in the ass. [g]
 
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That wasn't the only reason. Vista was junk from release. Just like WinME.


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But when you tours your notes & logs,
it help the pain go away.

Now is it not good to have two Computers or more,
one to F-up and one to keep safe always...

If someone that make Software on his,
one and only Computers, it will become Pain in the ass,
not knowing a miss Type, can make a anti-virus cry out,

So he torn in two, to know his anti-virus cry out,
Then he say in his Heart: I'll just turn it off,
for it have to be a false negative,
for I know whit I am doing.........


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Just like windows 1.0, & win-2000 junk from release,
But with win-2000 they did make good updates in the(SP)family for it..  

Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

Hot-Text presented the following explanation :

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It is not the OS's job to *prevent* the user from running programs, In
fact, it is quite the opposite. B-)



Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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Yes after old School OS like 98 & XP,
Windows prevent a programs from running on a user computer,
with out their (The User) permission..
And Windows OS Job is now to prevent software from installing,
with out the users knowing it,

Windows just like Lexus..
On Log-in to give software first run rights
or a install Permission..    

Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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I disagree with the wiki on this. A vector is more like a path taken
than it is a method used.

You might find this interesting

http://www.symantec.com/connect/articles/malware-infection-vectors-past-present-and-future



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Dustin wrote on 7/28/2012 :
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I always thought that this was a clever method.

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Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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That a 100% True

And why I keep system searches in directories accessed OFF,
 

Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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Too bad it's wrong.



Re: How does a malware effect a program and get loaded by Windows?

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You look at links I said::
name 3 main types of virus


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Yes, it's wrong. The list that is.

Without a more useful question, I can't answer. What do you mean by
'types' and why would there be only three 'main' ones?

The author of that article you posted the URL to seems to think trojans
are viruses, they are not.

1)Viruses must self-replicate
2)Viruses must infect (attach to code) as a means of achieving item #1



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'3 main types of'

#1. PHP virus
#2. JS virus
#3. Java virus

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Trojans

If it look and sound like a Ducks to a Duck,
Does not make it Ducks when the sound of bang,
and the Dog come run upon the Ducks on that cool fall day..
or
If it look and sound like If it look and sound like Geese to a Goose,
Does not make it Geese when the sound of bang,
and the Dog come run on a cool Fall day..

 to a Goose,
Does not make it Geese when the sound of a bang,
and the Dog come run on that cool Fall day..

For the Dog no not of a



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self-replicate Trojans

If it look and sound like Geese to a Goose,
Does not make it Geese when the sound of bang,
and the Dog come run on a cool Fall day..

 


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Not 3 main 'classes of',
But '3 main types of'

#1. PHP virus
#2. JS virus
#3. Java virus

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<Trojans>
If it look and sound like a Ducks to a Duck,
Does not make it Ducks when the sound of bang,
and the Dog come run upon the Ducks on that cool fall day..
or
If it look and sound like Geese to a Goose,
Does not make it Geese when the sound of bang,
and the Dog come run on a cool Fall day..

For the Dog do not of a Geese virus,
if all he brought home was a Goose..
</Trojans>


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Trojans Viruses is not a Trojans,
But the Viruses will give off a Trojans Signatures...
 
 

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All covered under "script".
 
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no such thing.
 


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