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I haven't been able to post due to a power outage.  It goes out  
after almost every good storm, but, what was unexpected was that the  
generator didn't kick in.  I had to manually flip the power switch a  
few times, from auto to manual to off and back (even though it was  
on auto all the time and the battery was charged as evidenced by a  
3.8VDC check on the side panel) and there is plenty of propane in  
the tank.  I flipped the breaker a few times.  I pulled the fuse and
it looked good.  

Everything looked ok electrically, and, after a few flips of the  
switch, it turned on.  Recently on its weekly charging cycle, it had  
been turning off and on after only a few seconds, so, that's  
probably related.  I'm guessing that the propane generator wasn't up
to speed at first, for whatever reason, and that the voltage wasn't  
as high as it needed to keep the solenoids down, so, they were  
clicking?  I never heard that clicking before, and, the lights were  
running as soon as the generator kicked in.  

While I might not have continuous power, it doesn't always mean  
other circuits in the neighborhood are all dead.  Some might still  
have better battery backup, and/or their own reliable generator to  
keep them going.  Having some electrical knowledge lets me
reconfigure mine for my immediate needs.  Backsoon.




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Re: Generator trouble

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 12:09:59 +0000 (UTC)

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Yea, we can see that really paid off....LOL

I haven't been able to post due to a power outage
and generator failure..

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On 4/23/2015 7:09 AM, Diesel wrote:
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Goodness!  That all sounds like quite the mess.


Re: Generator trouble

After serious thinking SeaNymph wrote :
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If he had a deisel generator, he wouldn't have this problem.



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On 04/23/2015 08:06 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
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LOL Roar...  I before E   <g>

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Re: Generator trouble

On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 09:06:28 -0400, FromTheRafters

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HAH!
Although realistically diesels tend to be better with more frequent
use so you don't end up with fuel issues while propane tends to work
out better if it's more rarely used.

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MadAdmin has brought this to us :
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Eh, it was just my way of saying it was a spoofed "Diesel" post. The  
"real" Diesel has "diesel" and the spoofer has "deisel" in the FQDN of  
the MID.

A diesel generator I used at work was started up by compressed air when  
the supplied power failed. We sometimes had to coordinate a 'test' with  
the power company to avoid problems when testing the backup system. No  
problems with batteries, switches, or flakey contactors.



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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:54:00 -0400, FromTheRafters

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Kinda figured that was what you were on about :)

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I've seen semi trucks started that way which was really kinda cool
compared to the normal noise you hear from starting something like
that. I've seen backup generators big enough that the power company
would call the facility up to ask them to power up to give some juice
to the grid. And I've seen the backup generators installed in the new
SOCOM building which was an impressive setup. And I would have LOVED
to have seen the battle bridge completed and see it in action. But,
sadly, that wasn't part of my contract..... But I did my small part to
help ensure that the tax money spent on that was well spent in the
quality of the end result. Hope it was that way all around......

Re: Generator trouble

MadAdmin presented the following explanation :
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We couldn't supply *that* much power I don't think, but enough to run a  
Naval Radio Transmitting Facility. Even with only that, we had to work  
closely with the power company. I imagine this Diesel fellow is talking  
about something even smaller.

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I spent some time doing SECAS validation, and also would have loved to  
see the "Battle Bridge". I saw a whole lot of circa 1970 combat  
information centers (inside and out) and can only imagine what they  
look like now with huge flat screen monitors and cool shit like that.

Nothing virus related though.



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On Thu, 23 Apr 2015 17:59:18 -0400, FromTheRafters

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I'm sure he was :)
The one facility that immediately came to mind was a hosting facility
that maintained excess generator capacity so when the grid got busy
they'd have to ramp up to not only power themselves but feed the grid
their excess juice. The security on that building was higher tech than
what I saw at SOCOM and CENTCOM :) But the latter had guards with
M-16s running around.

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Yeah those were some seriously huge screens they were putting in. It
was high tech although it was mostly high tech from about 1999 as it
took them about 10 years to go through all the process to build it so
there was basically CAT5 where I'd have expected fiber and such. Man
the cooling they had to have for all that equipment. And I've NEVER
seen the amount of raised floor and drop ceiling to handle all the
piping, wiring, HVAC, etc.. That single floor was about worth 2 floors
in height compared to a standard commercial building. The sad thing
was how much of the construction materials came from China. I didn't
think military did that but things have seriously changed over the
years......  

Generator trouble

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 On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, FromTheRafters wrote to All:

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 F> Eh, it was just my way of saying it was a spoofed "Diesel" post. The
 F> "real" Diesel has "diesel" and the spoofer has "deisel" in the FQDN
 F> of  the MID.

now you've gone and blown a method of determining the faker from the real
one... good show! :lol:

nice how they attempted to get others to grab onto the pgp signature, too...

 F> A diesel generator I used at work was started up by compressed air
 F> when  the supplied power failed. We sometimes had to coordinate a
 F> 'test' with  the power company to avoid problems when testing the
 F> backup system. No  problems with batteries, switches, or flakey
 F> contactors.

same here... we always have to coordinate unless we pull the mains first... but
then we also feed back and get paid for that, too ;)  

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mark lewis presented the following explanation :
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How does that blow anything? It, in fact, points out the way to filter  
if one has the capability to filter on MID's. The injecting server's  
admin shouldn't let anyone else duplicate the right hand side.

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I don't think ours were capable of that. Did they do stuff like that  
back in the early 1980s?



Generator trouble

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 On Thu, 23 Apr 2015, FromTheRafters wrote to All:

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 F> How does that blow anything?

because the faker knows about it now and can fix their mistake...

 F> It, in fact, points out the way to filter  if one has the  
 F> capability to filter on MID's.

yes, until the faker fixes their mistake...

 F> The injecting server's  admin shouldn't let anyone else duplicate  
 F> the right hand side.  

agreed :)  

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 F> I don't think ours were capable of that. Did they do stuff like  
 F> that back in the early 1980s?

AFAIK, yes... there's been something in the books for a long time about feeding
excess power back into the grid... i can't say that it is a law or anything but
i do know that the electric company has to pay you for that power you
provide...

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 On Fri, 24 Apr 2015, FromTheRafters wrote to All:

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 F> They can't fix it, that's the whole point.

ahhhh! gotcha now... i had to take some time to go back and dig a little
deeper... yes, i see what you mean now :)  

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Re: Generator trouble

On Wed, 23 Apr 2015 22:00:42 , "mark lewis"

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Fidonet brings back some memories.... LOL makes me almost miss Opus
and Quick.......

Re: Generator trouble

Diesel brought next idea :
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The power went out here yesterday so it was work on the lawn and  
weeding day yesterday. It was out from 8am to 5pm, so I was worried  
about the freezers and all the frozen food thawing out. The ice-cream  
got soft, but that was about it so no loss of food.

Edison has a hiccup at the plant so there were a few hundred thousand  
people without power as well as several businesses that didn't have  
their own backup generators.
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Life goes on. :D

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