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I have a customer whose hard drive failed and I have now reinstalled
WIndows 7 on a new drive.

His provider is HughesNet. They have him on a plan where he has a ZoneAlarm
Security Suite of some kind or another that is supposed to protect him from
everything. But they are charging him $3.95 a month for it.

He has never had malware problems and is not a risky surfer. He is a mule
addict and practically every site he visits has to do with mules... :-)

I have suggested installing the free version of Avira or Avast, or
Microsoft Security Essentials.

Does he even need a firewall other than the Windows firewall? If so, I
could always install the free version of ZoneAlarm.

Or should I just reinstall the ZA Suite and let him keep paying?

Personally, I use the free version of Avira and the paid version of MBAM
which runs resident. It's rare that either ever detects anything and I live
a helluva lot more dangerous than my customer :-)

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Li'l Abner wrote:
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Avira and the firewall that came with Windows 7 is just fine IMO.

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Thanks. That's what I wanted to hear. :-)
Anyone want to second the motion?

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I second that sentiment.



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Thanks. If I got your vote, then it's a done deal!

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I use Windows7Firewall Control:
http://sphinx-soft.com/Vista/order.html

This is just an addition to the Windows 7 firewall to see/check what the
firewall is doing.
Even more simple than ZA.
 ;-)

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Li'l Abner wrote:

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+1


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I have one machine that I use exclusively for a webserver. It also has
mail, FTP, news, and Shoutcast servers. I have had Avast on it ever since
Avira had a memory leak problem about a year ago. The other day I updated
Avast to the newest version and it wanted to run my mailserver (MDaemon)
in a sandbox. That was enough to turn ME off. It's now running Avira as
are my other 3 computers.
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We think exactly alike on that.

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And you know what's *really* good about it? User Account Control does not
kill it! I was previously using either UltraVNC or Show My PC on all my
customers with Vista or Windows 7. I always had to talk them through
turning off UAC. The only thing I don't like about it is that it nags me
to buy the paid version every time I go to get out of it.

Thanks much for your reply!

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Per Nobody > (Revisited):
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+1
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+1 on that.
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On 6/5/2011 18:41, FromTheRafters wrote:

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Agreed, if we're discussing Avira AntiVir Personal (free version).
To that I'd add Malwarebytes' Anti-Malware PRO.

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1PW wrote:
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Sure, it doesn't hurt to have extra protection that doesn't conflict
with your AV. AV won't catch everything.

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FromTheRafters wrote:
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Which provides close to zero protection against the most common type of
current infections, the rogue security software installers.



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gaz wrote:
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The idea is to not install them. If you go around installing malware, no
firewall is going to save you.

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The vast majority use Social Engineering which is the human exploit.


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David H. Lipman wrote:
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Depending on what gets downloaded, the firewall is
already defeated.

I think gaz was implying that you need a better
firewall to detect lame 'phone home' attempts.
I am of the opinion that you've already lost the
race when you have malware running behind the
firewall.


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Yes.  The only hope is that the FireWall detects unusual outgoing packets and
blocks
it/them.


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On Tue, 7 Jun 2011 21:11:45 -0400, "David H. Lipman"

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    The only malware I ever ran on my PC was picked up by kerio
2.1.5 the next day, when it tried to phone home. Antivirus firms took
up to a month to add it to their databases. I had to remove it
manually.
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Which "Antivirus firms took up to a month to add it to their databases" ?


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On Wed, 8 Jun 2011 08:53:37 -0400, "David H. Lipman"

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    Avast, for one, took 3 weeks.Others still did not detect it
after a month. I posted the trojan to you at the time.
    If you are really want, it's probably in my archives,
somewhere.
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