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Hi all.  Using this product in Australia on W98SE, 64 Mb RAM.  I found
the machine slowed right down if I left the setting on real time.
Cursor jerky, CPU fan always on etc, although Windows resources meter
did not show any problem.  Clicking off the real-time seemed to cure
this.

Any comments on this phenomenon or product?


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I think its time to get a new system.
Win98SE will no longer be supported by Microsoft after July this year and
provide NO UPDATES to this obsolete operating system.

You can purchase a new system unit and use the existing monitor.
Over here the keyboard and mouse are included in the system unit purchase.
The only additional item to purchase is the operating system.

New system unit $450 which consists of a Celeron processor running at 2.0GHZ
and 256MB RAM.
WinXP Home $110 and sometimes it comes bundled and pre-installed with the
system purchase.

E-Trust Vet will run effortlessly on this system.
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YoKenny
See CoU at least weekly:
http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.php?&act=calendar
I support the right to arm bears


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<YoKenny> typed:
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I forgot to mention these are Canadian prices.

Do not go for brand names like Dell, Compac nor IBM but find a local PC
store that has a good reputation and purchase from them.
They will give better personal service and a MUCH better price.
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YoKenny
See CoU at least weekly:
http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.php?&act=calendar
I support the right to arm bears


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Ouch!  This is a laptop, so I can't easily replace just the "system unit".  I
think I'll make do for the moment.  I use Word 2000 to generate an income, and
rely on it

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The income you generate needs to include provision for
replacing your hardware at least every 3 years. If it can't,
there's a problem with your business model.
This sounds a bit harsh, but it's economic reality, if the
machine is used for business.
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If you don't want the whelks don't muck 'em about
If you don't want them someone else may

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YoKenny wrote:

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That is a totally irrelavent statement.

Microsoft's End-Of-Life for Win-98 comes at a time when the reliance
(if not dire need) for critical updates for W-98 is approaching zero.

There have been very few updates needed for the core components of
Win-98 over the past few years, and as time goes on, any lingering
vulnerabilities for Win-98 systems will likely be IE-related (for
which several alternative browsers exist now and will continue to
exist into the future).

At the time of XP's introduction, and even today, Win-98 was and still
is a more "hardened" OS from a vulnerability standpoint.  That reality
is the "elephant in the room" when the issue of 98's pending
end-of-life is raised.  

XP was a failed experiment by MS to see how an NT system would fare in
unmanaged environments like the home or small office.  The fact is
that it turned many computers into spam-spewing zombies - and worse.

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Hear, hear!

(The correct term is, "hear, hear!" It is an abbreviation for "hear, all
ye good people, hear what this brilliant and eloquent speaker has to
say!")

I concur. I built a new XP SP2 system for some friends a few weeks ago.
To date there have been over 60 Windows Updates. I have just about every
version of Windows from Win3.1 and NT 3.1 to Server 2003.

I prefer Win98SE for many reasons, one of them being, I can repair just
about anything in less than a half an hour.

Malware writers aren't challenged by Win98. They're mainly writing for
XP and IE.

Chas.

Chas.








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I hope you assisted them in install them.

 > I have just about every version of Windows from Win3.1 and NT 3.1 to
Server 2003.

They will come in handy when you start up your own branch of the
Smithstonian Institute.

You could ask them to give you a small spot in the Air and Space museum
right next to the first Compaq or the ENIAC

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I guess you have lots of spare parts for your model T automobile.

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True. :(
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YoKenny
See CoU at least weekly:
http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.php?&act=calendar
I support the right to arm bears


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Personally, I prefer DOS 3.3. Best OS ever built. Doesn't require all the
new fangled hardware, like a mouse! And not vulnerable to any network attack
since it is not a network operating system. Why fix it if it ain't broke.

*/tough out of cheek*/

-Frank



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"Frankster" wrote:

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A man after my own heart...

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...but that's going a bit far!

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Humour aside, it is probably the least buggy OS MS has ever released, and
within the bounds of its own limitations, thus the most stable.

Hmmm -- I wonder where my original (5.25") installation diskettes for that
have got to...


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Nick FitzGerald



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nick@virus-l.demon.co.uk says...
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I liked 5.
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I liked CDC's NOS (we had a 170-730 here)
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 You still have access to 5.25" drives?
I have DOS 5 on 3.5" around here somewhere.

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If you don't want the whelks don't muck 'em about
If you don't want them someone else may

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"Befunge Sudoku" wrote:

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I stuck with 3.3 for a long time before I eventually jumped to 6. It's
likely I had something that required functionality introduced with 5,
but I can't remember what now.

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I still have my custom built 486 with a working 5.25" drive, and a
version of Windows 1 on disks to go with it!



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I have found E-Trust to be light on resource use.
Maybe it's a bad installation. More memory might help!
I'd reinstall first.



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On Thu, 20 Apr 2006 05:55:09 +1000, aalaan@tpg.com.au wrote:

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You don't have enough RAM to use a good up to date realtime av
or even run modern browsers and other applications. Probably,
you don't have sufficient other resources either, such as cpu speed.
Your PC is way outdated.

Art
http://home.epix.net/~artnpeg

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aalaan@tpg.com.au wrote:
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Yeah, time to take this one off the net, or use it for e-mail and news
groups only. No web browsing.

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I make clear from the start I am no expert on computers but  am also a =
Win 98 [original version] user and have 190MB Ram .Have  used Australian =
Vet for nearly 7 years . I think it is a fine product but as of the =
recent updates I identified it as the cause of similar problems to which =
you describe . Slow opening of programs , curser jumpy , freezing .
I have spoken to Vet support , give them a ring they are easy to talk to =
,and although they did offer some suggestions which provided some =
improvement I think it is true the software is growing and developing =
perhaps beyond Win 98 .=20
I found, to temporarily at least, solve my problem I deleted Vet and =
installed the free AVG Anti Virus Program which is lighter on resources =
it seems and my computer is running OK again . I am not saying AVG is as =
good a program as Vet, but it does seem to run and update OK and it =
solves my problem for the time being . I am pretty careful as far as =
possible Virus go anyway .

I am thinking of buying a new computer in the near future as I cannot =
update it anymore [nearly full 6GB Hard drive] although really =
completely happy with what win 98 does . .When I get the new computer I =
will revert to the Vet Program .=20

Of course with only 64MB Ram and can well imagine the slow down.

Graeme=20



 

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Have you defragged your disk recently?
Win 98 with enough RAM is a good enough system for most uses. We have them
at work.
-Pete



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Thanks Graeme and Pete

That was really the information I wanted.  Being told by other posters that I
was running out of date software/machine didn't really help, although I'm sure
it was well-meant.  It was the easy and obvious reply.  I wanted to know if
anyone with my configuration was having problems.  I will now use the AV on
demand (frequently!) rather than real time.  BTW as to defrag, I found
defrag took a very long time (couple of hours) on 2.1 Gig so I imagine my 40 Gig
drive would take a century (or would it in fact be faster because more room for
swaps?)  BBTW, as my 40 Gig drive is only slightly full I imagine defrag
wouldn't help anyway.  In regard to W98SE and XP, the frequent upgrades and
problems people report with XP is just why I mistrust "upgrades".  At
least W98 is fully bedded in and we aren't likely to be suddenly told "if you
apply service pack x you will waste hundreds of valuable hours and may lose your
data too".  This problem of time is often overlooked.  Many people earn money
directly from time - I do.  IMHO when inadequately tested software/service packs
crash and cause untold wasted hours it is akin to being robbed
of your money.  I simply cannot afford to be an unpaid tester for any software
manufacturer.  Perhaps it needs a test case on the grounds of a product being
suitable for the use it is intended for (Aust. Sale of Goods legislation).  I
feel better now....

Graeme wrote:

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[original version] user and have 190MB Ram .Have  used Australian Vet for nearly
7 years . I think it is a fine product but as of the recent updates I identified
it as the cause of similar problems to which you describe . Slow opening of
programs , curser jumpy , freezing .
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although they did offer some suggestions which provided some improvement I think
it is true the software is growing and developing perhaps beyond Win 98 .
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the free AVG Anti Virus Program which is lighter on resources it seems and my
computer is running OK again . I am not saying AVG is as good a program as Vet,
but it does seem to run and update OK and it solves my problem for the time
being . I am pretty careful as far as possible Virus go anyway .
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it anymore [nearly full 6GB Hard drive] although really completely happy with
what win 98 does . .When I get the new computer I will revert to the Vet Program
.
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Gig drive would take a century (or would it in fact be faster because more room
for swaps?)  
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It's not how much you've got, it's how badly broken up it is.
How's your disk partitioned? W98 uses FAT32 which can only do
32G in one chunk, iirc. The major problmes I had with my old 98
machine were due to the C drive being a 1G disk - even though I
put almost everything on the other disk, the system and stuff
Windows wouldn't let me put on D kept filling all the swap
space and temp areas.

With your machine, adding more RAM would probably show the best
performance improvement, if you can still get chips for your
motherboard.


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If you don't want the whelks don't muck 'em about
If you don't want them someone else may

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        eTrust was good when owned by Cheyenne but it is still excellent and
more comprehensive than before (i.e. the virus world has worsened).  eTrust
uses few system resources, a great design.   If you use Win98/se try
defragging with "Vopt ME v6.2" which you'll find in Vopt's Archive at
http://www.vopt.com/archive.htm Vopt XP also works with Win98/se but the
Millenium Edition locks out "restarts" the best, imho.  You can also reset
your swap file.

Bill


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my 40 Gig drive would take a century (or would it in fact be faster because
more room for swaps?)
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help anyway.







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