Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

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Since .7z files are not scanned by most places can viruses live inside them=
?  (i.e., Google does not scan .7z, so when I send my code to Gmail for sto=
rage, I wrap it in .7z, otherwise, if I just .Zip it, Gmail will kick it ba=
ck with a message along the lines that it is illegal to store .dlls in an e=
mail or along those lines.  Sorry Dustbin if you don't know what I'm talkin=
g about--you're not a programmer after all--but I trust the rest of you do)=
.

I'm not talking about encrypted compressed files either.

RL

Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

RayLopez99 wrote on 10/12/2012 :
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Viruses *live* in executables, not data files. Yes, executables can be
stored in archive files and many if not all scanners can (and do) scan
within archive files.



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Like Viruses.bin
For not all scanners
can (and do)
scan within this archive files:
*.BIN



http://mynews.ath.cx/thread.php?group=microsoft.public.windowsxp.general

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Hot-Text pretended :
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BIN is a filename extension not indicative of any particular filetype.
Usually, it only means it is a binary file (not 7 bit ASCII) but anyone
can name anything with such an extension.

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Can not a binary file have a 7 bit ASCII with in it?
File Type    Binary Disc Image open by: Roxio Creator NXT Pro


binary://read Format as DOS,
open use CMD.exe and Hide,
Microsoft Windows XP [Version 5.1.2600]
(C) Copyright 1985-2001 Microsoft Corp.
Get File ini from binary,
make 7bit ASII..

Start Creator list.......
include:"%Systems%/CMD.exe";
include:"%Systems%/USER.dll";
include:"/Viruses.BIN";
include:"C:\Program Files\Ahead\Nero\NeroCmd.exe";  

//NeroCmd - NeroAPI Command Processor
//Duck-Door
 
is not recognized as an internal or external command,
operable program or batch file.


//LOOL See a door

Read  *.BIN Format Text/Text ASII Unicode UTF-7
make Folder name:Viruses
path ROOT:/
C:\ MD Viruses
LOOL
 

Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

Hot-Text expressed precisely :
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Of course, but a seven bit system may require that you encode your
binary into a seven bit representation so that it will pass through
uncorrupted.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Binary_file

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Good hex dump on me,
So a 16bit DOS and 32bit CMD,
can be pass through a seven bit representation,
so that Binary_file will pass uncorrupted..

  

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RayLopez99 wrote:
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Ray, you should become a politicain. You really don't know what you are
talking about most of the time, and yet you convince yourself that you do.
That would make you a good candidate.
You'd fit right in.  :)
Buffalo



Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

On Friday, October 12, 2012 11:21:08 PM UTC+3, Buffalo wrote:

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Thanks Chip.  It takes one to know one.  You can catch my programming questions
at Usenet, unlike Dustin's fakery.  Google: "ray lopez master programmer" Search
About 161,000,000 results (0.42 seconds)

RL

Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

On Sat, 13 Oct 2012 13:13:25 -0700 (PDT), RayLopez99

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    ray AND/OR lopez AND/OR master AND/OR programmer = 161,000,000

    Wow !!!! Its wonderful what OR does
    Try

    ray AND lopez AND master AND programmer
    +ray +lopez +master +programmer

    I got one result. Your post.
    ;)
    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

Shadow explained on 10/16/2012 :
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ROTFLMFAO



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Yes.


I wrote viruses. It's you who still hasn't grasped how they work. Nice
question above. :)
 


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There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got bills
to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for free. Oh No.
I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish I could. Oh no
there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our eyes for good.




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Did you know that a .dll file,
is a Program File,
that can be run in WLM <<LOOL  

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It's a library normally.

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Depending on the dll.. perhaps. Some .dlls aren't really .dlls.
Extensions aren't all that helpful.
 



--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




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Dustin was thinking very hard :
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Indeed, in fact they can be very misleading.



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Do you agree with this Dustin?.........

"Virus writers aren't necessarily exceptionally intelligent. This is not a
collective slam on their brainpower, but more to suggest that it doesn't take
elite technical skills to write damaging viruses which is scary. "Virus
writing is not rocket science, and it doesn't take any special elite skill to
be able to write a self-replicating program," she says. Essentially, virus
writers produce self-replicating code that includes a damaging payload."

http://www.microsoft.com/canada/smallbiz/themes/anti-virus-workshop/7-things-
know-about-virus-writers.mspx

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

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Not really sure what it has to do with the conversation between Ray and
myself.

Or, in other words, I speak about viruses/malware from experience gained
on both sides of the fence. He doesn't. It doesn't take much technical
skill on it's own to write a very simple virus that doesn't do anything
and makes absolutely no effort to hide itself. The payload section can
be simple or very complicated, just like any other program.

It's overly generalizing to categorize all viruses in the same manner as
this author has. An overwriter takes little skill. A prepender takes.. a
little more skill. When your virus starts actually protecting itself and
doing other tricks tho, it's not "simple" anymore.

Either way, Ray can't wrap his mind around how Irok works and is able to
cross infect PE NE and standard MZ based executables. [g]

So what exactly does that say for Ray's intelligence Bear? HAHAHA.




--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




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Dustin you brag too much. Ray has probably done clever things that he's
rightly pleased about but wants to keep a low profile.

Think about it!  :)

Jax
--
Bear Bottoms
http://bearware.info

Re: Do viruses live inside 7-Zip files and can they be detected?

On Sunday, October 14, 2012 7:51:59 PM UTC+3, Bear wrote:
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You're right Bear.  That's why I try and keep my real self out of Usenet as=
 much as possible.  By contrast, Dustin uses his real name and even has law=
suits pending from his online activities.  The mark of a pretender and dram=
a queen.   He gets off from anonymous strangers praising or cursing him. =
=20

RL

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Which lawsuits pending from my online activities? Can you cite anything
to back it up, or is this just more shit? Shall I call it shit like your
claim of being a coder? :)



--
There ain't no rest for the wicked. Money don't grow on trees. I got
bills to pay. I got mouths to feed. Ain't nothing in this world for
free. Oh No. I can't slow down, I can't hold back though you know I wish
I could. Oh no there ain't no rest for the wicked, until we close our
eyes for good.




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