Dimbulb admits extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)

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Admission to extortion noted.

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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)


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So what did happen with the picture gallery?


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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 00:09:05 GMT, Dustin Cook
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Angelfire took it down. I'm guessing it's 'cause Dimbulb contacted them.
I could've fought it and had them put it back, since this happened AFTER
Dimbulb sent me his new photo. But, why bother?

Thank you, Raid.

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them.
AFTER

Sugien sent me an email awhile back, when your site originally went
offline for some angelfire user agreement violation. Neither sugien or
myself reported your site, for what it's worth.

If you had kept the site on your own domain and just kept your word on
things, none of that sillyness would ever have happened.

So, I guess I'm wondering, was taking a shot at sugien really worth
trashing the picture gallery? I would tend to think it's not worth it. I
enjoyed the picture gallery, and I suspect many others did as well.

In the future if your going to take charge and build a community like you
did with the picture gallery, don't abuse it to assualt someone you don't
like. Let 4Q risk his sites, no need for you to do the same.
 



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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)

On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 15:15:35 GMT, Dustin Cook
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None of that sillyness [sic] would ever have happened if you hadn't have
butted in, Raid.

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Nothing lasts forever.

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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)


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iirc, she *said* that she took it down on her own, but I have my doubts.
She does still have all the illegal web captures from my web cam up on a
geocities page.  She even jokes on the page;


 "And remember, kiddies... Soooooooge says:
"None of these graphics or graphics resulting from a screen capture of my
live web cam may be duplicated, copied, uploaded to another server or linked
to."

I do think it ironic that one of the captions reads "2 Cool 2 B Remembered "
, is on the same page that she has dedicated to me which in effect keeps me
remembered,  is a hoot.

I have decided to no longer send in any DCMA for hero worship pages like
hers because it only goes to show that she is infatuated with me.  However
maybe and only maybe if and or when I my rich uncle dies in the poor house
or I get some ginormous inheritance or hit the lottery or some other way
that I get not only rich but wealthy I may at that time see the page in a
different light; but I sincerely doubt it; because in the final analysis her
poor excuse for a tribute page is nothing more then the delusional ramblings
of a want to be drama queen whose life is so lonely it is filled with the
quiet desperation of a life that has passed he by with only the memory of
dead cats and furbies to fill he waning years.  Because of her having either
no or very limited real life friends she spends her day searching the
internet for virtual friends and because of her personality she has little
of no success, so she lashes out at people in an attempt to get them to talk
to her; because any conversation is better then none.
I truly feel sorry for not only her but all those that she attacks in an
attempt to force some sort of excitement into her drab dreary poor excuse
for a life.



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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)


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She already replied to my question, and I have no reason to doubt her
claims. Only the one in so far as either of us having anything to do with
it.  I know neither of us did. :)
 
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You know, Sugien.. I still have alot of respect for Laura. Granted, it
caused a ruckus here getting her to remove your picture; But in the end,
she did. I don't know what happened with the gallery, I don't think she
should have ever moved it from her site. I liked it myself, I even
contributed to it. :)
 
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I'm glad to hear it. I only sent 1 dmca notice to 4Q's hosting provider
over the picture, and that's primarily because he dared me to try.
Otherwise, I don't send those things to anyone.


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Personally, I'd just let it be. Laura isn't completely bad you know. Yes,
she makes wiseass remarks concerning your family; but you did kinda
invite that. You shouldn't discuss your family in a troll environment. I
still occasionally remind my mom how foolish her posts to usenet were.
Yes, she really made them, and she thought she was doing it for my
benefit. Understandable, but not necessary.

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Sugien, Laura *IS* a drama queen. She'd even tell you as much. :)

Really, as long as I've known her over usenet and even with all the
fights I had with her during my raid days, I still don't think badly of
her.

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I suspect she has a social life of sorts. Everbody does, even you. :)

Another reason why I respect Laura sugien is because she knows you and I
are old associates from a long time ago, and I didn't attack her to get
"favor" with you or ahm. I think I treated you as I would have wanted to
be treated in that case. You had a valid issue with Laura and asked if I
could help, being as I know her.

I still think the issue is resolved,and you and Laura have no need to
continue this pointless fight.

Besides, 4Q is the focal point now. Let's not lose track. :)



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shhhh, you will have 4q thinking we are doing something behind the seams to
out him or something, lol

     As for Laura, About the only thing I ever objected to was her attacks
on my wife and children; because my wife has never posted on Usenet a single
solitary time, and the only time she was mentioned at all was when she
inadvertently walked behind me when I was running my live web cam and I was
asked who she was and I said she was my wife the insults and taunts started
because my Wife has health problems with diabetes and thyroid and is over
the normal weight for her height and body type.
     At least 4q to his credit when he went over the line (egged on by Laura
iirc) did eventually apologize.  I can not only forgive but forget; but
forgiveness has the request of the person admitting to their self and the
person whom they attacked that they were in the wrong for attacking someone
that was not only a non-combatant but doesn't even like computers or use one
or post to Usenet.  She knows she went across the line in attacking my wife;
but for what ever reason just like the picture when she is in the wrong she
tries to not only hide it from the online community; but also from herself
so that she can think in her own mind at least that she has done nothing
wrong.



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???? You know I sent in a DMCA to Angelfire; before she agreed to take it
down; because I sent you a copy of what I sent did I not?  I still don't
know if that is why it was removed or not.

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I had nothing against it ether other then she refused to obey her own
instructions about removing my image.  I had even emailed her telling her in
a joking manner something about like this "Laura you never know, you could
remove my image like I am asking and then I could just as well send you one
to put up".  It wasn't only because she was using it without permission that
irked me; but rather her blatant "I am going to keep it up and there isn't
one dammed thing you can do about it" attitude which I objected to.  I think
I showed that when I sent her a picture to use after she acquiesced and took
my image down.


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hmmm, maybe 99.999% because I don't know of anyone that is completely bad;)
Actually I would agree if she were to have the same intestinal fortitude Q
had when he admitted to being in the wrong for attacking my wife and family
and if she were to apologize like what he did, it would go a long way in my
book to change my opinion of her.  Sadly however I think in her mind she has
done no wrong and that truly is a sad think for her; because attacking
someone that is undeserved of such an attack is bad enough but to be either
so self centered to do such a thing or even worse to attack an innocent as a
way to try and attack a third party by proxy is one of the lowest forms of
attack.


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Simply telling someone that the person that crossed behind you in a live web
cam shot does not or at least should not to civil people invite attacks
against them.  I never discussed my family until *after* they were attacked
and only then to defend them; because of their having absolutely nothing to
do with the whole thing.

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Your mom posted to Usenet; but my wife did *not* there is quite a huge
difference!  And to attack a persons children, under age children at that is
quite uncalled for.  Expressly seeing as how my youngest that was attacked
was only iirc 13-15 at the time,  Well lets see she turned 19 late last
year, so you can do the math.

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Again there is a differance between being a drama queen and being a hatefull
one, that attacks a persons wife and children which are non-combatents
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Like I said, even 4Q had the guts and knew and *admitted* he crossed the
line and even then without Laura's egging him on he may not have crossed the
line; but it was Laura that put him onto bringing my wife into the foray in
the first place , iirc, and then after he crossed the line she joined him
there.  But as I said at least Q, redeemed himself, well at least as far as
I am concerned when he admitted his wrong doing and his apology


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I have been spending less and less time on my computer; because I have been
devoting more and more time to helping people in my community.  I have been
using most of my time online in discussions concerning religion; because it
is far more important then any petty differences in most of these groups.  I
have found however that even the religious study groups are being
infiltrated with trolls, all be it trolls of a different kind; because they
are admitted agnostics and atheists that come into groups that believe in
God and try and tell the regulars that they are foolish for believing in
God; but then I guess it is sort of like virus writers and or virus
releasers coming into an anti-virus group and releasing source code or
advocating the writing and or releasing of virus.




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See above about 4Q and his admitting to going across the line and
apologizing and Laura although not being quite as blatant about it none the
less imho, likewise crossed the line; because of my wife and kids being
non-combatants.


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Yes, I know you sent one. The thing is tho, if they had acted on your
DMCA notice, the site would have been downed withen 2 days. Not a week or
more later. :)

Unless you sent another one?

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Which was also my beef with her. She was intentionally ignoring your
request, even tho she wrote that she'd remove pictures if asked to do so.


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I don't think I did; but my memory is getting a tad lazy;)

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Re: Laura attacks another to help 4Q? extortion racket! (was Re: Ping 4Q)

On Sat, 26 Jan 2008 17:10:09 GMT, Dustin Cook
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Make up your mind, Raid.

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               ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Very interesting.

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I know I haven't. That's why I'm going to do it, again...

Mrs. Dimbulb's navy blue dress by Omar The Tentmaker:
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How so? I'm sure you get emails from the likes of 4Q. :)
 



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I think you missed the point.

As for the "likes of 4Q," he's not a psycho fuckhead, unlike you.

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Show me the post where I said this.

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Way, way waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay over.

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On Fri, 25 Jan 2008 19:05:42 GMT, Dustin Cook
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The old photo I got from Dimbulb was removed when he sent me the new,
puffy-faced photo.

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The whole acv gallery thing had nothing to do with you, Raid. You had a
beef with *4Q* over your picture on *4Q site*. That had NOTHING to do
with me.

If you hadn't have butted in, Raid, I would have put the gallery back
somewhere else, after Dimbulb got Angelfire to take it down. It was
*you* who convinced me that running the acv gallery just wasn't worth
it.  

C'est la vie. Nothing lasts forever.

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http://www.dramaqueenofcyberspace.com

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I didn't say the issue I had with you was anything to do with 4Q. And I
certainly didn't mean to imply that. They were two seperate things. 4Q
didn't have permission, you did. My issue with you was the fact Sugien
asked you repeatedly to do as you said you would in your own words!
remove his picture.

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I don't mind taking the official blame for you not putting the site back
online if you were planning to abuse sugien with it on another domain
anyway.

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As I said, it was a nice thing while it lasted and was productive. When
you turned into a 4Q wannabe and decided to use the gallery as weapon to
mess with Sugien is when I got involved. So if by you doing sugien right
convinced you to quit abusing people with the gallery, acceptable loss to
me.
 


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