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Re: Avira too big for it's britches again

On Sat, 07 Sep 2013 17:51:03 +1000, WayPoint
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Maybe you should read a little bit more?
https://startpage.com/eng/protect-privacy.html

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Fred W. (NL)

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marty3@wherever.com has written on 9/6/2013 12:20 PM:
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They do give somewhat rude answers, don't they? :-) But it behooves an
OP to phrase questions in a manner that will elicit helpful results. The
subject of this thread, for example, does expose the OP's lack of
knowledge and, by blaming Avira, his/her attitude.

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More B.S. from an AVira developer probably.

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eatmeavira has written on 9/7/2013 8:41 AM:
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Nope. Not even a user!

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<snip because of damn AIOEEEEEEEEEEE>
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You're next best bet or hell BEST bet with a free A/V would either be  
Avast or Bitdefender, and if you're really worried about detection rates  
being too low and don't mind paying, try Kaspersky?

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On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 11:20:03 -0500
marty3@wherever.com wrote:

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The OP was venting.

After suggesting that "AKAmatechnologies" might be a spam site or
spyware the OP only asked one question.

"Who are these people anyways who cannot write good programs?"  

The kind of help needed comes from another kind of group.


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When I connect to an AV company for an update, I do not want, nor do I  
expect to be connected to several other companies who then try to install  
unasked for software onto my computer. Not too far from malicious virus  
spreaders imo. What was the purpose of the AKA connect? I don't have time  
to research it, nor do I care. All I know is that Avira tried to install  
softare onto my machine from 3rd parties without warning or authority.  
That in itself is enought to dump them.

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:45:39 +0000 (UTC)

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Same here, I don't like it when Adobe or or Java updates do it either.
I can see an upgrade perhaps doing something like that, but when I am
doing an update it should be a security issue and adding crap like
toolbars is foistware. You shouldn't have to attend the installation
just to opt out of preselected crap.

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Okay, then I won't bother to explain it.

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Dump them then. Unless you are alone in feeling this way, they will
eventually get the message. You should go to *them* with your complaints
because I doubt there are any of them reading here.

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or a good psychiatrist...

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Upgrade is from IE8 to IE9 or from IE9 to IE10.
Updates you get every second Tuesday of the month from Microsoft for
Windows, etc.

Avira *can* add an (unwanted) toolbar to your browser.
But lots of software are adding toolbars to your browser nowadays
(unfortunately).

An upgrade from Avira is from version 13.0.0.4045 to 13.0.0.4052.
An update from Avira is to make your virus definition file more
up-to-date.
During an install of Avira you are asked to install the Ask toolbar.
Unfortunately the default value for this question is "yes",
but you can change this selection
So you can avoid having that toolbar installed.

I have Avira running in the background on my PC (Win7HP64SP1).
Every two (2) hours Avira will update.
Lately upgrades are sometimes included in the update.
(I was surprised when I found out, but all went well.)

I have IE10 (seldom used), I have no toolbars.
I have other browsers, I have no toolbars.

I upgrade/update my software as and when advised by the makers.
I try to keep my software up-to-date to avoid problems.

I never say: "What the hell, let's do some updates".


When you had an (unwanted) toolbar installed, you probably did not pay
sufficient attention during the installation procedure.
Like many people I had to learn this the hard way.

It is always advised to use the 'custom' install to check what is
happening.
It is always advised to do an install slowly (very slowly) and read
(with your eyes wide open) what tricks are concealed in the installer.

If nevertheless things go wrong it is no use to blame the newly
installed software, but take it as a warning to be more (and more and
more) careful next time.

Do you have any questions?

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Fred W. (NL)

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FredW has written on 9/6/2013 1:19 PM:
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Well said, Fred!

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wrong, wrong and more wrong. I told it not to install toolbars and it did  
anyways. It refused to complete the update stating I MUST install the  
toolbars to complete the download of new defintion files. Piece of junk  
software loaded with extra crap I never asked for by developers who want  
to take over my computer simply because I was stupid enough to make the  
mistake to use their "free" product to begin with.

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eatmeavira has written on 9/7/2013 8:49 AM:
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It's sounding like you got the update from the wrong place. I.e., it was
not a legitimate Avira product. Can you say where you got your original
Avira from?

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No, OP was just greedy.

To get some 'additional' feature, you have to install the Ask toolbar.
If you do not want the 'extra', you can escape from the toolbar.
That is all stated during installation.
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=133751
http://forum.avira.com/wbb/index.php?page=Thread&threadID=132916

To remove the toolbar:
http://help.ask.com/link/portal/30015/30018/ArticleFolder/11/Ask-com-Browser-Toolbar

[I don't read OP anymore, too much dribble for me]

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 On Sat, 07 Sep 2013, Juan Wei wrote to All:

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 JW> It's sounding like you got the update from the wrong place. I.e.,
 JW> it was not a legitimate Avira product. Can you say where you got
 JW> your original Avira from?

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If you would take the time to reinstall Avira and actually 'pay attention'  
during a Custom install, you will find out where you screwed up your  
install.
Course, it's easier just to bad mouth a free product then it is to admit  
your error(s), isn't it?

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Buffalo  


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I don't think logic can sway his "opinion" as noted by his choice of posting  
name "eatmeavira" or for readability; EatMeAvira.

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http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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BULLSHIT! I guess the other possiblity is that Avira was infected by a  
trojan that did all these things? A trojan Avira aided and abetted.

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This is exactly what it did to me. I opted not to have the tool bars and  
the update failed with error message saying I MUST install the toolbars.
Bunch of wankers at Avira.

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On Sat, 7 Sep 2013 12:36:30 +0000 (UTC), eatmeaviora
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It is difficult to admit that YOU screwed up.

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