Avira too big for it's britches again

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Wasted about 2 hours after a failed program update from Avira which  
installed microsoft updates without my permission or any warning, tried  
to install toolbars (probably spyware), tried to sell me crap and then  
failed the update after setting off numerous firewall alerts from places  
like AKAmatechnologies (a spam site or spyware?). Same as what happened  
to me on other computer about a year ago and my solution was the same,  
went over to avast which has a better detection rate and does not slow  
down my computer as much as Avira did. These goddamn companies are a  
bunch of bait and switch liars promising free and then pulling the rug  
from out under you. It's ok cuz I have a better program now I think,  
until maybe it's people get too big for their britches too. Spent a good  
deal of time manually cleaning out the registry to get rid of Alvira  
which included having to boot to safe mode to get rid of their shit  
entries all over the place that would not delete. Had to use a special  
registry cleaner to get rid of them, program would not uninstall fully.
Who are these people anyways who cannot write good programs? Pain in the  
ass is what they are.

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On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:40:46 +0000 (UTC)

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Thank you for your recommendation, I shall be switching to Avira as
soon as I can.

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Alvira ?
Spyware in Ask Toolbar ?
Akamai (LOL "AKAmatechnologies") a spam site or spyware ?

If you don't like just beacuse "you don't like Avira", that's one thing.  
However to not like or distrust Avira beacuse there are things you don't  
understand, that';s a totally different issue.

Thius is just full of faux information.

Yes Avira AntiVir installs the Ask Toolbar.  it is not "spyware" and one can  
easily Opt-Out of the installation.

Akamai is a server farm for organizational use.  It allows a commercial  
entity to take advantage of their services such that user's have access to  
company/vendor resources where there is a high volume of utilization of  
their services.

--  
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp


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Akamaitechnologies is a commonly blokced or filtered site, it's spyware.
Connecting to MS site and downloading crap i did not ask for is a no no.
Update failed and error message was I have to install the toolbar.
It's crap. Theya are trying to profit off of what is supposedly free  
software. And the program as I said in the OP bogs down my machine.

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eatmeavira wrote:  

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So you can't go to cnn.com for news then.  It's just a CDN, not nefarious
in itself.

--  

They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety,
 deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Ben Franklin

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Servers of Akamai or the Akamai domain do not constitute "spyware".  

--  
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

Avira too big for it's britches again

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 On Sat, 31 Aug 2013, eatmeavira wrote to All:

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 e> Akamaitechnologies is a commonly blokced or filtered site, it's
 e> spyware.

whoever told you this is full of shit... akamai is a content delivery
network... they have huge bandwidth to be able to deliver content from servers
closer to your location as well as the large bandwidth to be able to pump it to
your machine at the fastest speed available on your connection...

 e> Connecting to MS site and downloading crap i did not ask for is a  
 e> no no.

agreed unless it is required... .NET for instance... if the program required a
runtime library like .NET or the old C libs or even the older BASIC libs, then
it must either provide them or go get them during installation...

 e> Update failed and error message was I have to install the toolbar.  
 e> It's crap. Theya are trying to profit off of what is supposedly  
 e> free  software. And the program as I said in the OP bogs down my  
 e> machine.  

then dump it and don't look back... ever... no big deal... certainly nothing
worth numerous message exchanges in a newsgroup or forums or even email ;)

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Re: Avira too big for it's britches again

On Fri, 30 Aug 2013 13:40:46 +0000 (UTC), eatmeavira

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Yes, it is easy to blame others for your own total ignorance.
You are better off without computers, they seem to bite you.
 :-)

--  
Fred W. (NL)

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well why don't u tell us what your association is with avira, eh?

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On Sat, 31 Aug 2013 12:43:16 +0000 (UTC), eatmeavira
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I am using it (like dozens of millions of other users).

But someone who tells that Avira installs Microsoft updates, just proves
that he understands nothing at all about software and computers.

You also believe in fairy tales?

--  
Fred W. (NL)

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On 8/31/2013 3:47 PM, FredW wrote:
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I'm an intermediate (usenet sense) no expert, and even *I* know avira  
can't install windows updates... methinks he ate the 'fun' kind of  
mushrooms?



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Email Avira your complaints! Don't be spy! They might take it seriously! :)

On 30/08/2013 9:40 PM, eatmeavira wrote:
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eatmeavira wrote:
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<snip>

A similar thing happened to me. I was prompted by Avira to perform an  
upgrade. I figured, "What the hell, let's give it a go." Big mistake. It  
wound up installing IE8 over itself, getting rid of all my Favorites,  
adding unwanted toolbars (even though I had opted out of them when I was  
given the prompt).

I decided to roll back to before the mess occurred.

Up until then, I was a fan. Not anymore!  



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Something happened on your PC, but you have no clue what and why.

Avira does NOT update IE.
Avira does NOT add multiple toolbars.

It looks like your PC was already a mess before an update of Avira.
You should not blame Avira, but yourself (same attitude as OP).

--  
Fred W. (NL)

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I find it interesting that you are putting me down for having an  
"attitude."

FYI:

http://www.google.com/#q=avira+%22ask+toolbar%22

Also:

http://www.avira.com/en/support-for-home-knowledgebase-detail/kbid/1377



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I'll quote that which you missed...
"Avira does NOT add multiple toolbars."  

We all know about the Ask toolbar but there are no others.


--  
Dave
Multi-AV Scanning Tool - http://multi-av.thespykiller.co.uk
http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp

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On 9/6/2013 12:03 PM, David H. Lipman wrote:
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true, but what it *does* do when installing is ask you if you want web  
protection (toolbar) then later in the installation ask you again to  
make sure your didn't miss it the first time they ask and give a bit  
more details on why it's a "good" thing for you, so basically there are  
2 steps to duck the *1* toolbar when installing

and to the OP who says Avira Free installs official Microsoft updates...  
he needs to put down the crack pipe because that just does NOT happen.

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This the worst group you can find as far as getting help in.  It is
populated by a bunch of elite snobs who have no courteous whatsoever
toward questioners.  You're better off searching for some anti virus
forum using Google.

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On Fri, 06 Sep 2013 11:20:03 -0500, marty3@wherever.com wrote:
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There is a difference between asking a question and ranting.

Questions will be answered.

Instead of Google you are far better of using this:
https://startpage.com/eng/
(using Google is throwing away all privacy).

You sse this group can be very useful for people seeking advice.
 ;-)

--  
Fred W. (NL)

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On 07-September-2013 2:56 AM, FredW wrote:
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.. enhanced by Google.




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