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    There is no way I can get rid of the nag screen to install the
toolbar (appears at every boot), so I'll either have to do some more
registry hacking or go to Avast .... uggh
    I have the ask domain blocked in my firewall. Apparently you
cannot opt-out of the install, you have to let ask.com install the
toolbar, gather your personal data etc before you have an option to
uninstall the bloody thing.
    []'s

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Avira is basically payware. Sad to see its free version to become adware.

Did you untick all the checkboxes when it asked you to install the Ask
Toolbar?

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Re: Avira and Ask toolbar

On Tue, 28 Jun 2011 22:58:58 +0800, Man-wai Chang

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    It does not ask, at least in my case, which was an automatic
update.
    This hack seems to have buggered the nag:
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Windows Registry Editor Version 5.00

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\Paths]

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\Paths\]
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"="C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir Desktop\ApnStub.exe"

[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\Safer\CodeIdentifiers\Paths\]
"Description"=""
"SaferFlags"=dword:00000000
"ItemData"="C:\Program Files\Avira\AntiVir
Desktop\ApnToolbarInstaller.exe"

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Change the path to the executables ApnToolbarInstaller.exe and
ApnStub.exe, to whatever they are in your language.
Beware wrap.
    FWIW. Only tested 3 reboots so far ....
    []'s


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No Custom Install option?

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/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.1
   ^ ^   00:40:01 up 17 days 8:49 1 user load average: 1.03 1.05 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺!
請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
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Re: Avira and Ask toolbar

On Wed, 29 Jun 2011 00:41:27 +0800, Man-wai Chang

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    Dunno about a first install. Mine was just an update, and no
options were presented.
    []'s
    PS David's hack with the security policy is the same as my
registry hack, just different ways to get the job done.
    

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That may be the reason. Try a clean install.

(I am downloading it now... :)

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/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.1
   ^ ^   01:00:01 up 17 days 9:09 1 user load average: 1.09 1.06 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺!
請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
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There is a Custom option if you do a clean install.

Did you download your Avira from official website
http://www.free-av.com ? I hope you did NOT download
a hacked one! :)

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/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.1
   ^ ^   01:00:01 up 17 days 9:09 1 user load average: 1.09 1.06 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺!
請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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I don't see any option to turn off Ask Toolbar. So ... oh no...

There is a funny comment: Avira once listed Ask Toolbar as malware. :)

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   @~@   You have the right to remain silence.
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/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.1
   ^ ^   01:05:01 up 17 days 9:14 1 user load average: 1.01 1.05 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺!
請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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Interestingly...

If you use SecPol.MSC to create the disallow execution policies you'll see it in
the
Registry.

Export the disallow execution policies from the Registry to a .REG file and the
delete the
entries, then merge the REG file back intio the Registry you will see the
disallow
execution policies.
However, when you go back into SecPol.MSC you will not see those policies you
imported
from the REG file.


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Dave
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email.me:

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It's always been adware.

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No. It's not a few years ago.

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email.me:

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It makes no difference because adware does not require payment so it is also
freeware.

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But the freeware got income from those ads. :)

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/( _ )\ (x86_64 Ubuntu 9.10)  Linux 2.6.39.2
   ^ ^   17:22:01 up 1:45 0 users load average: 1.06 1.04 1.05
不借貸! 不詐騙! 不援交! 不打交! 不打劫! 不自殺!
請考慮綜援 (CSSA):
http://www.swd.gov.hk/tc/index/site_pubsvc/page_socsecu/sub_addressesa

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You wouldn't have an economy without income.

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I dont understand, are you getting this on the standard avira free av
install? Or is it one of their extras?



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The standard fee license expires in September.  If you download the software
update you
are extended to November 2012 with a catch.  From the System Tray Avira pop-ups
a
notification of a search bar install as a new feature.  That installs Ask
Toolbar and to
use the Webguard feature of Avira you have to enable Ask Toolbar.

I just closed the System Tray Avira pop-up notification and it did not install
and on my
WinXP pro desktop I denied the execution of "ApnStub.exe" and
"ApnToolbarInstaller.exe"
via SECPOL.MSC.

On my Vista Business notebook it required a reboot.  I closed the System Tray
Avira pop-up
notification and it did not install as well as I denied the execution of
"ApnStub.exe" and
"ApnToolbarInstaller.exe" via SECPOL.MSC.  Vista shows there is a Webguard that
is
disabled because Ask Toolbar isn't installed and I went into the configuration
and
specifically unchecked the box to load Webguard.

All this is PITA and Avira will feel the backlash when thye lose customers.

My POC at Avira could only state "Alas, I am not allowed to comment on this."


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Sorry...

That should have been "The standard _free_ license expires in September. "


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David H. Lipman wrote:
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I just prompted an update and sure enough their 'new security' shit popped
up. It gave me the option of install now or install later, the question is,
how often is it going to ask us to install it?



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gaz wrote:
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Mine's only going to ask one more time.

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gaz wrote:
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I just went though this.

I went ahead and hit OK to install the update/toolbar on the tray popup.

Which prompted Avira to give me a repair or remove option. So I hit
repair and there was an option on whether or not to install the toolbar.

I elected not to, and now Avira is fine.

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