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Upon installing avg free 8.5, I received a warning about possible conflicts
with other AV software.
The only AV software I could find running was Windows Defender.
Could it cause a problem

running Vista Home SP2

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Tommy



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Windows Defender is *not* an antivirus program.

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More likely is that a previous AV was not fully removed.

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Did you remove (McAffee, Norton) preinstalled on (bundled with) the
computer.



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On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:32:04 -0400, "FromTheRafters"

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Eh, eh, the new AVG Free (8.5) is anti-virus & anti-spyware.
http://free.avg.com /

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Fred W. (NL)

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Does it (like "Morrow" now "Windows Security Essentials") complain about
competing anti-spyware applications when you install it?

...that's just *wrong*!

:oD



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On Tue, 1 Sep 2009 18:51:51 -0400, "FromTheRafters"
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I have no idea and I have no wish to try.


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I agree.

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Fred W. (NL)

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FromTheRafters wrote:
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I removed all AV, AS that I could. Those weren't on there. An old Kaspersky
was on there, I removed it.

Windows Defender, formerly known as Microsoft AntiSpyware, is a software
product from Microsoft to prevent, remove and quarantine spyware in
Microsoft Windows. It is included and enabled by default in Windows Vista
and Windows 7, and is available as a free download for Windows XP and
Windows Server 2003.

I used Revo, and it didn't show WD, but it was a process running, I halted
it.



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Maybe this will help (if you didn't already use it):
http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Kaspersky-Anti-Virus-Remover-Download-99015.html

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I am aware of what it is, and also aware of what it *isn't*.

It *isn't* an AV program.

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It is common practice to disable almost all such programs when
installing new software.



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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http://www.softpedia.com/progDownload/Kaspersky-Anti-Virus-Remover-Download-99015.html
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Why disable it if it isn't an AV program?





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To avoid possible interference with the installation process, not
because of some conflict with the normal operation of either program.
The caution specific to AVs is mostly because of a conflict between two
"on access" (API hooking) scanners.



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On Wed, 2 Sep 2009 08:17:51 -0500, "tommy"
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A. It is a "service" that has nothing to do with the working of Windows.

B.  It is a Microsoft security product.

C.  It has a conflict with your AVG 8.5 (warning from AVG)

Both AVG and WindowsDefender are real-time anti-spyware.
Two real-time AV quarrel.
Two firewalls (real-time) quarrel.
Two real-time AS ............

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Fred W. (NL)

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...or that's what they would like you to believe.



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tommy wrote:
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I guess I will look on the AVG free forum for WD conflict.



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Please share with us the results, if any.

Good luck.



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@news.eternal-september.org:

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It's probably more of a generic warning. IE: If your running Norton
preinstalled, please remove it BEFORE you install AVG.


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Dustin Cook [Malware Researcher]
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk

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Yes, but I think it is disingenuous for these security related programs
to warn against competing anti-spyware programs unless there actually
*is* conflict between them. It seems like they are making suggestions
that result in the user removing the competition's software for fear of
conflicts that don't actually exist.

I believe that several "realtime" entities can run without conflict as
long as there aren't "on access" conflicts involved, and these vendors
(Microsoft included) use this misunderstanding of "realtime" to get
users to remove the competition's software from their system.



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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I got AVG8.5 free installed. WD is still on there. They both seem to be
working together.




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Was there a conflict, or was it just a misunderstood cautionary note?



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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looks like a misunderstood cautionary note



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I saw one of those in a sneak-peek at Windows Security Essentials. It
seemed to me like an intentionally easy to misunderstand cautionary note
about AV and AS (AV as conflicting and AS as needlessly  "slowing down"
the computer) IIRC.

http://www.addictivetips.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/06/microsoftsecurityessentialsinstallationready-thumb.png



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FromTheRafters wrote:
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I'm also concerned about WD not showing up in the add / remove list. Where
would you remove it?



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