Are these the same Bears?

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They both share the same provocative style and they both reference the
same website. However, I don't understand why two similar but
different authoring names are used.

Author: Bear Bottoms

Author: Bear

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4ax.com:

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I'll help...I used to use Bear Bottoms and XNews exclusively. When I went
to Thunderbird (for a while just to see) at some point I changed it to
Bear. Recently I grew distressed with Thunderbird...ain't the best for
Usenet, decided to try MesNews...disliked it and went back to XNews. Now
I've changed XNews to Bear instead of Bear Bottoms. I also changed my email
addy again...back to bearbottoms1@gmai.com (munged gmail - with the
permission of gmai.com) and which I've used the most.

HTH

--
Bear
http://bearware.info
The real Bear's header path is:
news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail

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I'll add that Pooh/John Stubbins/Franklin/Whatever is still forging me and
he also uses bearbottoms1+ACF@gmail.com and hasn't caught up with my
changes yet.

Most of the heavy ACF trolling started when Yrrah cross-posted a security
discussion in ACF to this group and the trolls came over to ACF to wreak
havoc. Some of those left, but Pooh/John Stubbins/Franklin/Whatever
ratcheted up his noise. Easy to manage though.

--
Bear
http://bearware.info
The real Bear's header path is:
news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail

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4ax.com:
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They are my forger's headers. I kinda like him.

--
Bear
http://bearware.info

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Bear Bottoms wrote:
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LOL

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I suppose you find it funny and support such kind of forging behavior. Is
this the kind of folks I'm dealing with here?

--
Bear
http://bearware.info
The real Bear's header path is:
news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-mail

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Bear wrote:
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I see the irony of that post as funny. Your jumping to the conclusion
that I condone such behavior just indicates your state of paranoia. I
suppose you think I'm part of some great conspiracy now - lol?

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Yes, and if you look at the surrounding rooftops you'll see our snipers
are in place - so back away from the computer, drop the images, and
nobody needs to get hurt.


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I expected no less or more of a comment from you.

--
Bear
http://bearware.info
The real Bear's header path is:
news.sunsite.dk!dotsrc.org!filter.dotsrc.org!news.dotsrc.org!not-for-
mail

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@dont-email.me:

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Drop the images slowly. Make no sudden moves or the sectors gets it!


--
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too
many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and
the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts

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I like your comment even though I do not necessarily agree with you.

--
Bear
http://bearware.info

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    They are both obvious forgers. A friend who knew Billy Bear
well once told me:

    "He speaks from experience and personal knowledge.  This
probably causes him problems on the Internet, because he completely
stays away from the things that he doesn't know anything about."

    Since ALL the Bear posts fall in that category, I seriously
doubt ANY are the real one.

    []'s
--
Don't be evil - Google 2004
We have a new policy - Google 2012

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All biases aside, how do I determine the original?

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M.L. wrote:
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By 'Posting Host'.

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[pulling hen's teeth...]
What's the Posting Host of the original?

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M.L. wrote:
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The so-called forger doesn't have a "NNTP-Posting-Host:" field, whereas
the so-called *real* Bear has one and it is in the open (clear). It
can't be forged, but can be encrypted (but "Bear's" isn't). It can be
'missing' where the server opts to use "X-Trace:" in its stead - as is
the case with the so-called forger.

I'm not sure if he qualifies as a forger, but I suppose that decision is
up to his NNTP provider or server operator.



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Thanks for the info. I considered him a forger since he used the
original's email address.

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M.L. wrote:
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Me too, however Bear's address doesn't start with an 'r'.

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Huh? Aren't they both bearbottoms1+ACF@gmail.com

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Nope, and what do you mean both?

'He' uses at least five different providers, and there's good evidence that
Bottom is
pretending to forge himself in order to implicate others.

--
p-00-h the cat
Internet Terrorist, Mass Sock puppeteer, Agent provocateur, Gutter rat
Devil incarnate, Linux user#666, BaStarD hacker

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I was referring to the email address shown in the two From: headers
above.

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