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Trend won't instal without an internet connection and everything installed
is from genuine trusted installation disks and I want to monitor all
suspicious activities as early as possible.
I don't want to instal all the programs on my computer which may take a
couple of days without have things monitored, most programs need to update.
I've never heard it done that way, I thought the most important thing was to
get antivirus monitoring as soon as possible, and as I'm asking for advice I
hope knowone is using this as an example.
Gaz



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Gaz wrote:
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Not so...


Antivirus monitoring is only one facet of the overall problem.
Malware takes many other forms that aren't virus.



Hello Gaz:

I apologize if my last post was a bit harsh.

Your approach to reload incrementally is /somewhat/ sound.  However,
you must have maximized your protection against all malware before
your system can be allowed to "see" the Internet.

"Slipstreaming" SP3 with your Windows install media, and all
subsequent updates, will help to meet that requirement.  You may also
include all the special drivers your system requires if you build a
slipstream CD with "nLite".  A cloned backup of your complete clean &
current system would be the fastest solution.

For about $12AUD, Trend Micro will sell you a CD to go with your
downloaded suite as a backup.  Not many of us recommend Trend Micro,
as we prefer individual solutions for the most part.

By letting your system "see" the Internet without updates, patches &
all its antimalware protection, you are offering up a "Honey pot" to
all the ne'er do wells.  Honey pots can be infected in mere seconds.
The "bots" that infect similar systems can test with exploits in
milliseconds and install any manner of malware a short time later.
Remember in the above procedure you used, your system was a honey pot
while you were downloading SP3 and Trend Micro IS Pro.

Best wishes,

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1PW

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Hi
    I just got nLite but I cannot find that Trend CD anywhere on there site,
do you have a link? thanks.
I chose Trend as we have it at work and nothing seems to get through it
(except this). I didn't know any other way of doing the instal and was
worried about being on the net unprotected, but now I know if I have to do
it again.
Gaz



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Gaz wrote:
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Pretend you are again ordering your own product on-line.  As you check
out, you will be offered the opportunity to add a CD backup to your
order.  I don't pretend to know how to make the web site believe I'm
in Australia though.

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The logic of your statement above makes my brain to hurt!  An inferior
Trend Micro product has failed you.  But you are giving it another
opportunity to let it fail you again.  I'm at a loss for words Gaz.

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I wonder if this whole experience will give you an opportunity to
rethink the quality of the product that you hope will protect
everything you do on the Internet?  I wonder if you've thought about
the security of your computer systems at work?  What would happen to
your job if all of your work's most sensitive information were to fall
into the wrong hands?

Trend Micro doesn't sell an enterprise product that even appears in
the major commercial testing arenas.

Safer solutions are available.  Are you concerned now?

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1PW

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Gaz wrote:
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Trend CD is going to be much more out of date than a freshly downloaded
AVAST or AVG 8 on  a thumbdrive. This could spell the difference since the
newest install file will have an up-to-date or more up-to-date set of
definitions.
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Tommy



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tommy wrote:
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Hello Tommy:

What is better?

A) An inferior security suite downloaded with a possible honey pot and
subsequently updated to current?

or

B) An inferior security suite installed from trusted media on a
possible honey pot and subsequently updated to current?

The choices are: a bad one and a worse one IMO.  A better answer is to
 flatten & rebuild your system in a controlled environment where the
connection to the Internet is /never/ part of the equation.  ...and
where nothing but trusted media is used to build the system.  ...and
when choices are made as to security components, one choses "best in
breed" antimalware separates.

Your point is not lost on me Tommy.  A secured system, used to
download a much more superior product /is/ much wiser.  However, at
this moment, I'm very partial to Avira's AntiVir Personal.

A very recent clone of a stable & recent safe system is also a better
choice.  There - updates could be made, with trusted media, to make
the reborn system safe again before re-connection to the Internet.

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1PW

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Avira counts, I just haven't used it enough to be sure that it downloads
updated.



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Hi All
         I installed Avira with update and ran it and it found this file "Is
the TR/Agent.1153024 Trojan" in two locations, System Vol and ABF Outlook
Express Restore program which I have licence for and downloaded it directly
from their site.
I have searched but cannot find specific info on this supposed trojan, can
someone maybe help with some more info.
Thanks Gaz



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Gaz wrote:
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 <http://virscan.org/report/cfc6613800b93bdb45975ffee86d0b22.html

If you haven't already deleted the files, you could crosscheck by
uploading the files individually to:

                    <http://www.virustotal.com/

Please preserve, in good notes, the full pathname to the files in
question.

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1PW

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They are sitting in Quarantine and I'm a bit concerned where to export them
to on the computer safely so I can upload them to virustool.
Gaz



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OK so if you have done a wipe and reinstall, the virus is gone. If
you are getting something again, it is from something like a external
hard disk you are connecting or a USB.

If you do the reinstall, then something you are doing is reintroducing the
virus.

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