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|
| What's that David? You say you have
| direct evidence... Would that be *YOU*
| providing malware to "organized crime"
| aka Dustin Cook (leader of the HHI
| criminal gang).
|
| So you are one of the "peers" or
| peddlers of malware to a known malware
| spreader Raid/[SLAM] the virus spreader?
|  *Oh dear*
|
| 4Q
| http://fourq.host.sk/INFO /
|
| p.s. I hope your "peers" don't find
| out about this little secret.

4Q.  Don't bring me into your personnal attack againt Dustin.

It isn't hard to ascertain a perpetrator of malware on a web site registered in
Brighton
Beach, Brooklyn, NY, with the registered name being Russian.

Or why the vast majority of the sites distributing ZLob Trojan and DNSChanger
Trojan
installers are by registered ESTDomains.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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You got a lot of nerve making that statement. I have not said a da*n thing
to you in over a year yet you constantly file abuse complaints on me on
every post I make. "Don't bring me into your personnal attack againt Dustin"
you're a hypocrite. Rumor has it in the antimalware community that your site
has been taken down for DMCA violations and clicking on your signature I
would say that's true. What did you steal David?


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The list grows. Leythos the stalker http://www.leythosthestalker.com , David
H. Lipman, Max M Wachtell III  aka What's in a Name?, Fitz,
Rhonda Lea Kirk, Meat Plow, F Kwatu F, George Orwell



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On Sat, 24 Mar 2007 06:18:14 -0700, pcbutts1 wrote:
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LOL - iPowerweb.com provided the email and complaint you filed butts, and
as soon as their legal department opens on Monday the site will be back
online (nice work doing it on a Friday like that).

I've also contacted the real authors of the software you claimed ownership
of (WGET) and they are in the process of backing David up and disproving
your faked claim. Oh, and don't forget, filing a false claim is against
the law, you're just driving nails in your of coffin.


--
Leythos
spam999free@rrohio.com (remove 999 for proper email address)

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Most in the anti-malware field have seen your fradulent DMCA takedown
notice, Christopher. I'm sure repercussions will soon follow.

Wget is licensed under the GNU license agreement, The legal team at
ipower has been contacted, and when they open Monday; they'll see that
you tricked them.

You do realize, it's against the law to file fake DMCA noticies right
Christopher?

Btw, We also have copies of the real demise of your spyerase program. You
know, the one you claimed to have sold. A little birdie tells me you were
forced to quit hosting it when the original authors went after your
provider.

--
Dustin Cook
Author of BugHunter - MalWare Removal Tool - V2.2
web: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk - email:
bughunter.dustin@gmail.com.removethis
Pad: http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk/pad.xml


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David H. Lipman wrote:
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I will leave this cross-posted w/ F/U set.

Dave, why is Ian's site down?

Ron :)

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"Aunti Virus" wrote:

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If you follow research done by the security community and others
you will find plenty of evidence of the criminality behind malware.

Here's a good example:
http://www.secureworks.com/research/threats/gozi /



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Aunti Virus wrote:

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it presupposes that they would *need* to do that... that there aren't
enough people making malware for their own reasons that the av companies
have to get in on it to justify their existence...

anyone with half a clue in this field knows that there are in fact many
people willing to make malware without any connection to the anti-virus
industry whatsoever... there's no shortage of malware writers out there
so there's no need for the anti-virus industry to pick up the slack...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

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I don't believe it is a matter of the industry needing to do things like
this so much as it is one of them doing it out of greed.

I'm not saying all of them are doing it, nor is it evil to be in business
and make a profit.  Simply that I believe the largest several are doing a
microsoft and trying to help themselves grow by creating a need that only
they can fill

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Aunti Virus wrote:
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that *still* presupposes that there aren't enough viruses being produced
by the bad guys... a number of companies have started to complain that
the numbers are outstripping their ability to deal with them... there is
no shortage of malware and no need (even accounting for greed) for them
to make more...

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and the consumer would never purchase their product again if that was
discovered (and it *would* get discovered)... unlike the operating
system market there is *lots* of competition in the anti-malware market
and making their own malware would be marketing suicide...

--
"it's not the right time to be sober
now the idiots have taken over
spreading like a social cancer,
is there an answer?"

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Online poker's rigged, too.
--
If you don't want the whelks don't muck 'em about
If you don't want them someone else may

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Aunti Virus, 3/22/2007,2:40:06 AM, wrote:

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Learn a little bit about economics before making up stories like this.

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Is that the same Alaska that environmentalists are preventing us from
drilling for oil that would make us less dependent on the Middle
Eastern tyrants who continue to fund terrorists?  Place the blame where
it belongs, not with corporations who are selling you a product you
want.

--
“Get all the fools on your side and you can be elected to anything.” ~
Frank Dane

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On Mar 22, 4:14 am, Aunti Virus <"auntivyrus ATnym.panta-
rhei.eu.org"@remailer-debian.panta-rhei.eu.org> wrote:
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I dont think arm chair view applies here.


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George Orwell, 3/18/2007,11:20:05 PM, wrote:

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No doubt.  What has the UN been able to accomplish without corruption
or the help of the US so far?

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