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I downloaded and ran Malwarebytes and it did not report anything,
which I take as a positive sign!  Right?

When you say "update your java, and adobe" - I think everything is
up-to-date.  I'm running WinXP SP3 and IE7 with all the latest
updates.  Is there a setting in IE7 that I need to check for latest
version of java?

I know, a lot of questions :)

Charliec
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Charliec

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Charliec wrote:
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Speaking of updates...
I just got one of those emachines that WalMart was pushing
and it came with something called "BigFix", is that any good?

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| Charliec wrote:
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| Speaking of updates...
| I just got one of those emachines that WalMart was pushing
| and it came with something called "BigFix", is that any good?

No.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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David H. Lipman wrote:
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Does it do any harm, or just fails to do any good?

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| David H. Lipman wrote:

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| Does it do any harm, or just fails to do any good?

The latter and its more of a placebo.

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Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
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David H. Lipman wrote:
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I wasn't aware that BigFix still functions for home users.

--
Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court



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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries wrote:
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The box came pre-loaded with XP home edition
and BigFix is bundled along with Norton
and a few other things I don't need.

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ASCII wrote:
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I think if you try to run it, you'll find it's useless.

It wasn't particularly useful when it still had sources from which to
collect fixlets.

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Rhonda Lea Kirk Fries

"You know you can indict a ham sandwich if you want to."
William J. Martini, Judge, United States District Court



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It's a 3rd party program. Monitors for driver updates, etc etc etc. It's
crumy, imho.


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Dustin Cook,  Author of BugHunter
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
  


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Dustin Cook wrote:
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Isn't it better than nothing,
or only bloat that's surpassed by something else?

BTW: How can I harvest my pics and mp3s from an old IDE drive
when this machine uses SATA?
Are there any adapters or is it a lost cause?
I can get a friend with an older machine
to snag my data and burn to DVD if need be.
Another Q - Is it possible to convert from the pre-loaded NTFS to FAT
without a complete format, fdisk, and install?

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BTW:: How can I harvest my pics and mp3s from an old IDE drive
| when this machine uses SATA?
| Are there any adapters or is it a lost cause?
| I can get a friend with an older machine
| to snag my data and burn to DVD if need be.
| Another Q - Is it possible to convert from the pre-loaded NTFS to FAT
| without a complete format, fdisk, and install?

Use a USB 2.0 to IDE external hard disk chassis.

You can't go from FAT to NTFS w/o a reformat.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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| When you say "update your java, and adobe" - I think everything is
| up-to-date.  I'm running WinXP SP3 and IE7 with all the latest
| updates.  Is there a setting in IE7 that I need to check for latest
| version of java?

| I know, a lot of questions :)

| Charliec


A bit late to the thread but...

1.    Ignore what Butts has posted.  He is no anti malware researcher and what
he offers
is plagiarized scripts.  He doesn't even understand fully how they work and he
falsifying
his credentials as a Microsoft MVP.  Beauregard T. Shagnasty has caught him in
his
plagiarism and so have I.

2.    Listen to what Dustin has posted.  He He is an experienced programmer and
a member
of the MBAM team.  He KNOWS what he's talking about.

3.    Take the advice Beauregard T. Shagnasty concerning email scanning.  Unless
you are
using Microsoft Outlook or Loutus Notes (MAPI or VIM), scanning email is
worthless.

4.    There is NO setting in IE7 for the latest version of Java.

5.    To verify if your PC is up-to-date with vulnerability mitigation, use the
services
of Secunia OSI (Secunia Software Inspector).
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/ It will tell you what
software has
vulnerabilities and need to be updated/patched to mitigate the exploitation of
the
vulnerabilities.  This includes Adobe Reader/Acrobat and Java.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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David H. Lipman wrote:

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Just a point to Charliec that both you and I, David, didn't totally make
clear:

   PCButts is posting recently using the nym "The Real Truth MVP" when
in fact he is neither of those.

It has been mentioned by others that installing his purloined and
massaged Remove-It VB script will add/change/overwrite your HOSTS file,
to write one that blocks legitimate anti-malware web sites. Why does he
do that? Because his own site is listed in the HOSTS files provided by
reputable people.

--
   -bts
   -Friends don't let friends drive Windows

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Hi David,

I ran the vulnerability scanning as you suggested and everything
checks out ok except JAVA applications.  The scan indicates that I
have 4 versions of JAVA on my system:
- Version 6.0.70.6 (the latest according to their web site and it
scans OK).
- Version 6.0.60.6 (recommends to remove via Add/Remove)
- Version 6.0.50.13 (recommends to remove)
- Version 6.0.30.5 (recommend to remove)

Before removing those via Add/Remove, I wanted to check with you on a
couple of things.  Might there be programs on my system that require
the older versions to run -or- is the newest version compatible with
programs using previous versions.

I wonder why the JAVA update does not remove the older versions?

I will await your reply prior to removing the older versions.

Thanks
Charliec
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Charliec

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www.java.com, Be sure your running the latest flavor. :)

It's not built into IE, so no you can't update it that way.
Our new MBAM build should have flagged it, if you actually were infected
with it.


--
Regards,
Dustin Cook,  Author of BugHunter
BugHunter - http://bughunter.it-mate.co.uk
MalwareBytes - http://www.malwarebytes.org
  


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Dustin Cook wrote:
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I can see why java could be relevant, but adobe? Is the XP 2008 spreading in
PDF files?

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tommy





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From: "Tommy McClure" <tmDELccDEL72AThalDASHpcDOTorg>


| I can see why java could be relevant, but adobe? Is the XP 2008 spreading in
| PDF files?

| --
| tommy

No but theere are vulnerabilities in Adobe that can be exploited resulting in
any kind of
malware infection the exploiter chooses.

The latest, and now common, exploit in Adobe is an exploit in the function;
Collab.collectEmailInfo()
Once exploied it creates a buffer overflow condition which leads to an elevation
of
priveledges and the result is a download and installation of malware.

It isn't just Adobe or Sun Java.  There are vulnerabilty/exploit vectors in
Adobe Falsh,
ReadAudio and Quicktime as well. These are only a few examples.  The fact is
miscreants
can use a laundry list of exploits and once a vulnerability is detected in an
application,
it can be exploited to their advantage.

The point is updating the OS is not enough.  You have to make sure ALL
applications are
patched and vulnerabilities are mitigated.

As I mentioned earlier in this thread...
To verify if your PC is up-to-date with vulnerability mitigation, use the
services of
Secunia OSI (Secunia Software Inspector).
http://secunia.com/vulnerability_scanning/online/ It will tell you what
software has
vulnerabilities and need to be updated/patched to mitigate the exploitation of
the
vulnerabilities.

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
Multi-AV - http://www.pctipp.ch/downloads/dl/35905.asp



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