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I've happily been using previous versions during quite a few years.
Now trying AnitVir *12.x Free, Avira's Anti-Virus Software ..

What setting in the GUI am i missing, and_or what option during the
installation did i select wrong?

I've shut off all updating, product, engine and malware definitions.
Still in the *12.x versions[*1] every two hours the new program
[IPMGUI.exe] is launched and calls home to 'notifier#.avira.com' (#
= 1,2,...).


Personally on a machine i administer, i want to be in charge of
whenever a program should start after the machine have finished booting.
Personally i want to be able to notice when there is communication
out over the network/to the internet. When i don't intentionally use
the network there should be now such communication.
I use anti-malware software to stop exactly that type of behavior.



[#1] Installers used, both exhibiting this behavior;
AntiVir 0012.0.0.855 Free(2011-10-12)
AntiVir 2012.0.0.872 Free(2011-12-15)


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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:16:29 +0100, Etal
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There is nothing in Avira Free Antivirus for you to stop ipmgui.exe.
It is part of sending you "encouragements" to buy the payware version.

I have inserted jobs to update every two hours and
I have blocked ipmgui.exe in my firewall.
Now I get very few "commercials".

And writing this message I blocked avnotify.exe to see if this helps to
stop all commercials (spam).
Last time I did this, Avira wanted to update avnotify because it did not
work anymore.

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On 2/18/2012 6:02 PM, FredW wrote:
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Avast is much better today than Antivir...especially having to put up
with this crap. I used antivir for a short while, but there were better
alternatives than jumping through hoops to stop this crap.

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On 2/18/2012 6:31 PM, Bear wrote:
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| On Sun, 19 Feb 2012 00:16:29 +0100, Etal
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|
| There is nothing in Avira Free Antivirus for you to stop ipmgui.exe.
| It is part of sending you "encouragements" to buy the payware version.
|
| I have inserted jobs to update every two hours and
| I have blocked ipmgui.exe in my firewall.
| Now I get very few "commercials".
|
| And writing this message I blocked avnotify.exe to see if this helps to
| stop all commercials (spam).
| Last time I did this, Avira wanted to update avnotify because it did not
| work anymore.
|

I don't get commercials since I implemented a policy to block the execution
avnotify.exe and I don't see any reason to block ipmgui.exe.


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..hrmm.. sorry for the delay in my response

thanks for the responses


FredW wrote:

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Ok, it is indeed encouraging me, but perhaps not in the intended
way ... It encourages me to now wonder what i will install or
suggest for acquaintances asking me for help. It encourages me to
take a new look at AVG's, Avast's or other free offering that
might exist today that i haven't needed to bother with for years.


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I understand that most users will run installed anti-virus
software with letting it auto-update, so they will probably not
notice it calling home independent of the update-process. When i
have installed AntiVir for someone else, i let [AVNotify.exe] run
and says that this annoyance is the /price/ for using it free;
That if they are satisfied with the AntiVir and are rich enough
they should consider buying it.

*but*

Software that calls home even when you haven't auto-updating
enabled and that can't be turned off, that is something i
associate with malware/spyware and something i don't condone.

Having to use a 3rd party solution to stop software from calling
home, then it is probably software that i don't want to have
installed in the first place.


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Just because a security software communicates with the home server(s) does NOT
put it in a
negative light.  There is more to keeping a software up-to-date than just
signatures.

I think you are overly paranoid but I suggest you install Wireshark and view the
packets
for yourself.

Otherwise, I suggest disconnecting the computer from the Internet altogether.
Then you
will have no worries at all.


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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

David H. Lipman wrote:

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I'm not interested in keeping this software up to date.
( When i am, i download a new version and install that. )


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.. right



On one computer, not connected to the net, i *have* installed
AntiVir 12.x, and the software is continually in-vainly banging
its head against the unused Ethernet connector. I am afraid that
eventually the connector will break and the computer-innards will
leak out onto the floor.


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Right - sniff the packlets and see what it is exactly that you are worried about.


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That's both silly and funny  ;-)


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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

David H. Lipman wrote:

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I should have been more clear here.
I'm not interested in keeping *any* software "up to date",
whatever that means. I install/configure software so that it
works as i want it and then use /as is/ because that is why i
installed it.
I want *any* software i use to behave in a consistent fashion,
unless i intentionally change its settings and_or intentionally
update it, both of which i do, but at my own volition.
This is one reason why i turn off auto-updating in all software.


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It's not that i'm particularly worried about what this particular
software transmits. I trust them to help my computers
malware-free. I dislike if any, if all and sundry software on my
machine communicates out onto the internet without me instigating
it. Because if the do, it is harder to detect when something
new/unknown, something bad, starts to do it. Hence another reason
why i turn off all softwares auto-updating themselves.


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I was going for paranoid.

But when i shut down this WinXP computer after posting here
yesterday i for the first time ever got an error message where a
"Proxy Desktop" couldn't close properly .. then i started to
actually go paranoid .. did someone from here break into my box
as a POC that i need to have Anti-Virus auto-updating turned on?

... Spooky

(I have Folder Options : 'Launch folder windows in a separate
process' enabled, but have had this machine like that for a long
time without it happening before .. at least it didn't happen
again on next shutdown. )


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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...


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You're killing me.  Too bloody phunny  ;-)



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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

@speranza.aioe.org:

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One of the golden rules of safe hex is always keep your software patched
and up-to-date. Such statements to not do so should always contain the "do
so at your own risk" warning.

Of course you have the right to your own preferences, but I recommend
always keeping your software updated - and autoupdating is the best and
surest method. If you have a /great/ recovery plan, unwanted surprises are
easily remedied.


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Your safe hex maybe.. Not mine. Not all software should be updated
willynilly.
 


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I have had a link on my website to:

Safe Hex - Safe Computing Tips
Courtesy of the alt.comp.virus newsgroup participants.
http://www.claymania.com/safe-hex.html

for many years.

Security related patches often come with program updates?

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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

Bear wrote:

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...hundreds of other sites, but no original material.

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Of course. One would think a person of your vast expertise would know
that.

Is your expertise only half-vast?

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Re: [AntiVir *12.x] .. every two hours ...

Etal wrote:
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Not likely, as this is a textual medium and you have no actual
connection to anyone's computer here. The only way I can think of to
attack you from here is through the content of a post (like a script or
and attached program file) and it would depend upon your reading
software being not up-to-date.

IMO, it is more important to keep your software up-to-date than it is to
keep your AV signatures up-to-date.

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email.me:

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+1

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