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Iv got Avast Antivirus, Home Edition, but so many people have told me
that it mises a lot of viruses, is this true?

Iv also got Ewido antispyware, supernatispyware.

What other free antivirus is good? (apart from avg, which is worse than
avast)


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It is not true.

I would like to see the list of viruses that Avast misses if anyone could
actually supply one. I've been using Avast for a couple of years, and also
installing it on ALL of the systems that I build and/or clean and not one
person or customer has been infected with a virus since I've been using it.

When I originally switched to Avast, these forums were filled with posts
criticizing Norton and McAfee as missing lots of viruses, and talking up
AVG, Avast, and Nod32.  I had McAfee and started to get worried, even though
I had never been infected with a virus while using McAfee. I finally decided
to try AVG and Avast because I got tired of paying McAfee's yearly fees.

pc doc



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AVG is very very good, but not cheap to own.



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Hi all,
Anyone familar with how to rig the AVG thru a FW like Outpost? I have
assigned ports for the servers, but no log data coming in for FW or AVG.
OEv.6 is the email client and it gets its mail thru an ssl connect.
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|
| It is not true.
|
| I would like to see the list of viruses that Avast misses if anyone could
| actually supply one. I've been using Avast for a couple of years, and also
| installing it on ALL of the systems that I build and/or clean and not one
| person or customer has been infected with a virus since I've been using it.
|
| When I originally switched to Avast, these forums were filled with posts
| criticizing Norton and McAfee as missing lots of viruses, and talking up
| AVG, Avast, and Nod32.  I had McAfee and started to get worried, even though
| I had never been infected with a virus while using McAfee. I finally decided
| to try AVG and Avast because I got tired of paying McAfee's yearly fees.
|
| pc doc
|

He, he, a challenge...  :-)

Can I demote you down to Nurse from Doctor ?

Avast seems to have missed this one...
---------
ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.862915 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00570512 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Lop.Z 1.43173 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.2615 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.06183 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.291816 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Virtumod 5.57038 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.537591 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Adware-Spyware/Virtumonde.DA.56 3.57485 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.75965 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 Clean 2.08971 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.31442 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.77669 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Clean 11.1694 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.3029 secs

And Avast seems to have missed this one as well ...

---------------
ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.802041 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00503421 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.EP 1.37909 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.2612 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Trojan.Obfuscator.B 4.05365 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.014282 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.GLoad 5.59442 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.424895 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Obfuscated.A.1 3.52801 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 7.81964 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/Agent.NDB trojan 2.0897 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 4.57242 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.75718 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Obfuscated.a 2.11022 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.27767 secs


Wow, Avast missed this one too...

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ArcaVir 1.0.3 Clean 0.876894 secs
avast! 2.0.0 Clean 0.00519991 secs
AVG Anti Virus 7.1.30 Generic2.ABI 1.41969 secs
Avira Desktop 1.1.6-32 Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.25413 secs
BitDefender 7.1 Clean 4.18134 secs
ClamAV 0.88/1776 Clean 0.0753601 secs
Dr. Web 4.33.0 Trojan.Webcon 5.59162 secs
F-PROT 4.6.5 Clean 0.524634 secs
H+BEDV AntiVir NULL Trojan/Small.JM.10 3.52827 secs
Ikarus PSCAN 2.32 Clean 8.48965 secs
NOD32 2.51.1 a variant of Win32/TrojanDownloader.Agent trojan 2.23972 secs
Norman Virus Control 5.70.01 Clean 5.46443 secs
Sophos Sweep 4.05.0 Clean 2.79051 secs
VBA32 3.11.1 Trojan.Win32.Small.jm 2.1101 secs
VirusBuster 2005 1.2.4 Clean 1.69238 secs



All tested files are new.  All are part of a very NASTY Adware-RootKit combo.


AVG did as well as AntiVir in the above but it is "my opinion" that AntiVir is
better than
AVG and Avast and is the *best* in the FREE AV family.


--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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I agree with what Dave said, I recommend Avira AntiVir.

Here is some Pros and Cons of Antivir:

Pros:

1.  Higher detection rate than AVG and Avast.
     Proof: The Reports from http://av-comparatives.org AND
http://www.virus.gr

2.  Good Heuristic Detection

     (in terms of proactive detection of new worms/trojans etc.
     It makes a no. of false postives though)
     Proof: The Reports from http://www.av-comparatives.org


3.  According to my experience, it is lighter than Avast.
    (Avast slow down my computer so much) <This is only personal
opinion>
    Its engine is rated as fast at a recent report from Reports from
    http://www.av-comparatives.org


4. Faster response time to virus outbreaks than AVG and Avast. (4-6
hours)
    Proof:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/12/ranking_response_times_for_ant.html


Cons:

1. No detection ability of Ad/Spyware in Classic (Free) Version

2. No POP3 mail scan in Free Version

3. The update server or the updater of the program is not so good.

You may find that even though there is new virus signature database
release,
your updater may only download the newest one. So if your are cautious
about your security during virus outbreak, you may need to do manual
update.

The steps are simple:
Download the database files and engine in a zip archieve (but it is
about 8MB) and
Click update--> manual update --> choose the file you have just
downloaded.
Wait about ~10 seconds  FINISHED

4. There is one feature of antivir some people may find disturbing. It
is the Antivir notifier.
It is used to display advertisements in Antivir free version, but these
advertisments are limited to selling their Premium Version of Antivir
which have POP3 scanner and Ad/Spyware ability. The notifier will only
display once or twice per day
(when you update Antivir). You have to do is just clicking "ok" to
close them.

5. Antivir is well known for making false positive, The number of its
false positives is rated "many" in one recent report from
av-comparatives.


If anyone can find more advantages/disadvantages of Avira Antivir
(including opposite opinion) or even other good antivirus, welcome to
post them here.


P.S. There is something called Active Virus Shield appears in the free
antivirus market.It is a clone of Kaspersky Antivirus which has
extremely high detection rate in antivirus tests. Has anyone try Active
Virus Shield? I have not try that yet. I think Kaspersky consume too
much system resources, but I will stay with Antivir even Active Virus
Shield (a clone of KAV) is FREE.

According to the EULA of AVS, AOL reserves the right to display
advertisements in the program.--> ADWARE
Reference:http://www.castlecops.com/a6636-AOL_Active_Virus_Shield_Permits_Adware.html \

Another reason for not trying AVS !  



Puzzlemuscle


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| I agree with what Dave said, I recommend Avira AntiVir.
|
| Here is some Pros and Cons of Antivir:
|
| Pros:
|
| 1.  Higher detection rate than AVG and Avast.
|      Proof: The Reports from http://av-comparatives.org AND
| http://www.virus.gr
|
| 2.  Good Heuristic Detection
|
|      (in terms of proactive detection of new worms/trojans etc.
|      It makes a no. of false postives though)
|      Proof: The Reports from http://www.av-comparatives.org
|
| 3.  According to my experience, it is lighter than Avast.
|     (Avast slow down my computer so much) <This is only personal
opinion>>
|     Its engine is rated as fast at a recent report from Reports from
|     http://www.av-comparatives.org
|
| 4. Faster response time to virus outbreaks than AVG and Avast. (4-6
| hours)
|     Proof:
|
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/securityfix/2005/12/ranking_response_times_for_ant.html
|
| Cons:
|
| 1. No detection ability of Ad/Spyware in Classic (Free) Version
|
| 2. No POP3 mail scan in Free Version
|
| 3. The update server or the updater of the program is not so good.
|
| You may find that even though there is new virus signature database
| release,
| your updater may only download the newest one. So if your are cautious
| about your security during virus outbreak, you may need to do manual
| update.
|
| The steps are simple:
| Download the database files and engine in a zip archieve (but it is
| about 8MB) and
| Click update--> manual update --> choose the file you have just
| downloaded.
| Wait about ~10 seconds  FINISHED
|
| 4. There is one feature of antivir some people may find disturbing. It
| is the Antivir notifier.
| It is used to display advertisements in Antivir free version, but these
| advertisments are limited to selling their Premium Version of Antivir
| which have POP3 scanner and Ad/Spyware ability. The notifier will only
| display once or twice per day
| (when you update Antivir). You have to do is just clicking "ok" to
| close them.
|
| 5. Antivir is well known for making false positive, The number of its
| false positives is rated "many" in one recent report from
| av-comparatives.
|
| If anyone can find more advantages/disadvantages of Avira Antivir
| (including opposite opinion) or even other good antivirus, welcome to
| post them here.
|
| P.S. There is something called Active Virus Shield appears in the free
| antivirus market.It is a clone of Kaspersky Antivirus which has
| extremely high detection rate in antivirus tests. Has anyone try Active
| Virus Shield? I have not try that yet. I think Kaspersky consume too
| much system resources, but I will stay with Antivir even Active Virus
| Shield (a clone of KAV) is FREE.
|
| According to the EULA of AVS, AOL reserves the right to display
| advertisements in the program.--> ADWARE
|
Reference:http://www.castlecops.com/a6636-AOL_Active_Virus_Shield_Permits_Adware.html \
|
| Another reason for not trying AVS !
|
| Puzzlemuscle

Another advantage:

Avira is quick to create new definitions for submissions on new malware and will
reply in
email indicating that fact and the name(s) of the infectors found/detected.

AVG and Avast are not quick and you get NO replies for subitted samples.

Ian and I have put together a good list of submission addresses.
http://www.ik-cs.com/suspicious-files.htm

Albeit, the address for AntiVir is not up-to-date on the above page.  It should
be...

virus@avira.com

I'll have Ian update the page.  :-)

--
Dave
http://www.claymania.com/removal-trojan-adware.html
http://www.ik-cs.com/got-a-virus.htm



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Puzzlemuscle wrote:

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AVS has been working very well on my XP Home machine. I observe no slowdown
in system performance. Detection of malware (nonviral) is superior to
Avast! Updates are very frequent.

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*IMPORTANT NOTE* Toward the end of the install uncheck the box to allow the
toolbar. Fail to do this and you are in deep AOL crap! Follow these
instructions and you will see no popups.

Reference:http://www.castlecops.com/a6636-AOL_Active_Virus_Shield_Permits_Adware.html \
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Castlecops.com lists AOL as "open to debate." What is new about this?
Anything from AOL is open for debate. If the instructions above are
followed there will be no advertising. If there is an advertisement I shall
uninstall the program. I don't expect this to be a problem. If the program
violates *MY RULES* it will be gone.

At present the AVS is functioning very well. It is providing the very high
level of protection one would expect from Kaspersky. If it behaved like an
AOL program and left 'Free AOL' icons all over my desktop it would be gone
in a flash! I would reinstall Avast! at once.

--
James E. Morrow        

jamesemorrow@email.com

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Well I've use it for quite a while. I would happily post a list of
viruses it's missed but I can't find anywhere where the program stores
them!! That's the problem with free stuff.
Just use the bloody thing and stop worrying.
Dave Cohen

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