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an open letter to Michael Dell of Dell Computer richardtenor 12-13-2005
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Posted by J. Clarke on December 15, 2005, 12:57 pm
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felmon john davis wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 09:26:02 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>>>> Now why would a respectable newspaper falsify such a story?
>>>
>>> Who said they falsified it? The reporter may just have written what he
>>> /believed/ to be true, the editor just didn't verify any sources and
>>> /believed/ the reporter... and so it got printed "in good faith" :)
>>
>> And of course they faked the picture of Brezhnev and the kid holding up
>> the letter.
>>
>>> Seriously, a minor news item appearing in a newspaper doesn't mean much.
>>> A major headline of a major newspaper is likely to be publicly
>>> challenged if it's wrong (and even then only "likely"), but not such a
>>> minor item in a minor paper.
>>
>> It may not mean _much_ but it means a lot more than the unsupported
>> opinion of somebody posting on USENET.
>
> it sure is a great story. I did a search on <http://www.snopes.com> which
> deals with urban legends and came up with nothing. I've been googling and
> also nothing. the Hartford Courant's site is a bit slow and they may not
> have their archives online. tried two variant spellings of
> Brezhnev/Breshnev's name, no go.
>
> weird. might not be on line.

This would have been the early '80s and most online archives only go back to
the mid '90s. Only way to find it would be to go down to the library and
read through years of Courant on microfilm.

Nothing weird about it not being online. Most human knowledge is not
online--the Internet is a far more limited research tool than is generally
recognized.

> Felmon

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Posted by Paul Rubin on December 15, 2005, 3:51 pm
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> > have their archives online. tried two variant spellings of
> > Brezhnev/Breshnev's name, no go.
> >
> > weird. might not be on line.
>
> This would have been the early '80s and most online archives only go
> back to the mid '90s. Only way to find it would be to go down to
> the library and read through years of Courant on microfilm.

An incident like that would have been mentioned in the NYT as well,
and the Proquest NYT database goes back to 1856, but it didn't find
anything. Anyway, even if there was such a photo, that doesn't mean
that the incident really happened. The Soviet government released
all sorts of bogus propaganda, just like the US does now.

Posted by J. Clarke on December 15, 2005, 9:21 pm
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Paul Rubin wrote:

>> > have their archives online. tried two variant spellings of
>> > Brezhnev/Breshnev's name, no go.
>> >
>> > weird. might not be on line.
>>
>> This would have been the early '80s and most online archives only go
>> back to the mid '90s. Only way to find it would be to go down to
>> the library and read through years of Courant on microfilm.
>
> An incident like that would have been mentioned in the NYT as well,
> and the Proquest NYT database goes back to 1856, but it didn't find
> anything. Anyway, even if there was such a photo, that doesn't mean
> that the incident really happened. The Soviet government released
> all sorts of bogus propaganda, just like the US does now.

I find it interesting that you would choose to believe it more likely that
the Soviet government would lie or that a newspaper would make a mistake
than that the US Postal Service would step on their weenie. Tells me that
you don't really correspond very much by snail mail.

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--John
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Posted by felmon john davis on December 16, 2005, 1:33 am
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On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:57:31 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:

>> weird. might not be on line.
>
> This would have been the early '80s and most online archives only go
> back to the mid '90s. Only way to find it would be to go down to the
> library and read through years of Courant on microfilm.
>
> Nothing weird about it not being online. Most human knowledge is not
> online--the Internet is a far more limited research tool than is
> generally recognized.

yes, that was precisely my point.

still seems like a story that would get repeated (also in other newspapers
unless this was a real scoop!) and show up in Snopes. but fine, it's
definitely a nice story.

hey, hope you are not too irritated at the doubting. some of us would like
verification before we repeat it, that's all.

Felmon

Posted by J. Clarke on December 16, 2005, 7:14 am
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felmon john davis wrote:

> On Thu, 15 Dec 2005 12:57:31 -0500, J. Clarke wrote:
>
>>> weird. might not be on line.
>>
>> This would have been the early '80s and most online archives only go
>> back to the mid '90s. Only way to find it would be to go down to the
>> library and read through years of Courant on microfilm.
>>
>> Nothing weird about it not being online. Most human knowledge is not
>> online--the Internet is a far more limited research tool than is
>> generally recognized.
>
> yes, that was precisely my point.
>
> still seems like a story that would get repeated (also in other newspapers
> unless this was a real scoop!) and show up in Snopes. but fine, it's
> definitely a nice story.
>
> hey, hope you are not too irritated at the doubting. some of us would like
> verification before we repeat it, that's all.

The thing is it's one that I saw in the newspaper with my own eyes. I don't
usually do extensive research before mentioning information from a
newspaper article in casual conversation.

> Felmon

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--John
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