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Posted by Jonathan N. Little on February 6, 2008, 9:36 am
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Bergamot wrote:
> The Bicycling Guitarist wrote:
>> I am not asking for WYSIWYG but for site management features.
>
> AIUI, FrontPage actually has some pretty good tools in this area. As
> long as you aren't using it for code editing, I don't see a big need to
> switch to something else. There may come a time when that becomes
> necessary, but I don't think there's any rush.
>
> Dreamweaver has all kinds of similar tools, but is pricey. Someone
> mentioned Expression Web as the next generation FP, which is probably
> worth looking into.
>
> Something like Kompozer is totally inadequate for a site as large as yours.
>
I use CrimsonEditor that keeps my markup clean ;-) But has no site
management. The WSFTP Pro that I use has sync function to synchronize
the live online sites with local development sites. Xenu works well for
finding bad or broken links. Maybe a handful of specialized tools would
be better than using a WYSIWYG editor just for the site management
features.
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Take care,
Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com
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Posted by GTalbot on February 9, 2008, 7:02 pm
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> Maybe a handful of specialized tools would
> be better than using a WYSIWYG editor just for the site management
> features.
Exactly what I think too. There is no WYSIWYG HTML editor which is
fully recommendable, complete by itself and affordable (open-source,
cross-platform, free, truly web-standards-compliant, meeting ATAG 1.0
recommendations, etc). So, best is to use specialized tools and to
combine their usage.
Regards, G=E9rard
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Posted by GTalbot on February 9, 2008, 6:59 pm
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> Someone
> mentioned Expression Web as the next generation FP, which is probably
> worth looking into.
>
> Something like Kompozer is totally inadequate for a site as large as yours=
.
Berg,
Just a few quick comments. I tried MS Web Expression when it was in
beta. What I didn't like is that you still could choose the type of
rendering, at least for CSS, which did make it a non-web-standards-
compliant HTML editor. Microsoft has to fix its IE browser and then
stop for good, stop forever offering a CSS IE engine in authoring
tools like MS-Web Expression.
KompoZer inadequate for large site? I don't know... I'm not sure I
agree. KompoZer 0.7.10 with FileZilla 3.0.6, with HandCoder 0.3.4,
with latest HTML Tidy (January 25th 2008), with an advanced text
editor makes it a very potent, very capable, quite powerful WYSIWYG
HTML editor.
Regards, G=E9rard
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Posted by Bergamot on February 10, 2008, 1:25 am
Please log in for more thread options GTalbot wrote:
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>> Something like Kompozer is totally inadequate for a site as large as yours.
>
> KompoZer inadequate for large site? I don't know... I'm not sure I
> agree. KompoZer 0.7.10 with FileZilla 3.0.6, with HandCoder 0.3.4,
> with latest HTML Tidy (January 25th 2008), with an advanced text
> editor makes it a very potent, very capable, quite powerful WYSIWYG
> HTML editor.
The OP is not looking for an editor, WYSIWYG or otherwise. He's looking
for site management tools, of which Kompozer has none.
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Berg
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Posted by GTalbot on February 9, 2008, 7:10 pm
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> Something like Kompozer is totally inadequate for a site as large as yours=
.
I took assignement of bug 151557 at Mozilla
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D151557
and I've been using KompoZer with HandCoder 0.3.4 with latest HTML
Tidy on a regular basis for fixing hundreds of webpages (from bug
360039, bug 389104, and many webpages) and I can assure you that
KompoZer's Markup Cleaner feature is quite powerful... along with
HandCoder and an advanced text editor make it very powerful, very
reliable and very efficient at fixing a great number of bad markup
code.
I have fixed a webpage that had 41652 validation markup errors
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D151557#c152
in 1 hour thanks to KompoZer and the mentioned tools.
Regards, G=E9rard
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