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alternative to FrontPage please The Bicycling Guitarist 02-04-2008
Posted by Blinky the Shark on February 5, 2008, 9:32 pm
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Ed Mullen wrote:

> macruzq wrote:
>>> macruzq wrote:
>>>> On Feb 4, 2:45 am, "The Bicycling Guitarist"
>>>>> I know and have known for years that MS FrontPage is bad for
>>>>> generating invalid code. Nonetheless I found it handy-dandy
>>>>> for managing my website because I could drag a flie from one
>>>>> folder to another and it would automagically rewrite all
>>>>> hyperlinks in other pages pointing to that file. It also is
>>>>> good for site summaries, checking hyperlinks, etc. Is there
>>>>> something out there besides FrontPage that is so handy-dandy
>>>>> automagical for managing websites? I am more than willing to
>>>>> leave FrontPage if there is.
>>>> May I suggest "seamonkey" ? It has a very useful WYSIWYG
>>>> editor.
>>> I don't believe that the Composer portion of SeaMonkey is
>>> being actively developed anymore. The most current Composer
>>> off-shoot I know of is Kompozer:
>>> http://www.kompozer.net/features.php
>>>
>>> --
>>> Ed
>>>
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>>> gton.edmullen.net Everybody is somebody else's weirdo.
>>
>> OK, but at least give it a try. Then make your own conclusions.
>
> I use SeaMonkey. I code my Web pages using a text editor. The
> only thing I use a WYSIWYG editor for is the rare copy/paste op
> to quickly gen up a temporary page. I don't use Composer, I use
> Kompozer.

Quanta Plus here. Text editor and multiple project manager (and
quick FTP uploading right from the editing window); no WYSIWYG
thanks. :)


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Posted by C A Upsdell on February 5, 2008, 1:49 pm
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macruzq wrote:
> On Feb 4, 2:45 am, "The Bicycling Guitarist"
>> I know and have known for years that MS FrontPage is bad for generating
>> invalid code. Nonetheless I found it handy-dandy for managing my website
>> because I could drag a flie from one folder to another and it would
>> automagically rewrite all hyperlinks in other pages pointing to that file.
>> It also is good for site summaries, checking hyperlinks, etc.
>>
>> Is there something out there besides FrontPage that is so handy-dandy
>> automagical for managing websites? I am more than willing to leave FrontPage
>> if there is.

MS replaced FP with Expression Web, and it is supposed to be much better
in terms of producing valid code. If you have FP I think you can just
pay the upgrade price to get EW.



Posted by Blinky the Shark on February 5, 2008, 2:31 pm
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C A Upsdell wrote:

> macruzq wrote:
>> On Feb 4, 2:45 am, "The Bicycling Guitarist"
>>> I know and have known for years that MS FrontPage is bad for
>>> generating invalid code. Nonetheless I found it handy-dandy for
>>> managing my website because I could drag a flie from one folder to
>>> another and it would automagically rewrite all hyperlinks in other
>>> pages pointing to that file. It also is good for site summaries,
>>> checking hyperlinks, etc.
>>>
>>> Is there something out there besides FrontPage that is so handy-dandy
>>> automagical for managing websites? I am more than willing to leave
>>> FrontPage if there is.
>
> MS replaced FP with Expression Web, and it is supposed to be much better
> in terms of producing valid code. If you have FP I think you can just
> pay the upgrade price to get EW.

Based on MS's past/present apps that generate markup, "EW" is probably an
excellent name for their latest attempt. It would be even better if they
went the Yahoo! way with "EW!"


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Posted by The Bicycling Guitarist on February 5, 2008, 9:55 pm
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>C A Upsdell wrote:
>>
>> MS replaced FP with Expression Web, and it is supposed to be much better
>> in terms of producing valid code. If you have FP I think you can just
>> pay the upgrade price to get EW.
>
> Based on MS's past/present apps that generate markup, "EW" is probably an
> excellent name for their latest attempt. It would be even better if they
> went the Yahoo! way with "EW!"
>
>
Lol. I am reminded of the worse than usual Windows ME of some years ago. I
use to say its name in the same context someone would say Fudge me or Screw
me.

Bergamot correctly noticed I am not asking for WYSIWYG but for site
management features.




Posted by Bergamot on February 6, 2008, 8:16 am
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The Bicycling Guitarist wrote:
>
> I am not asking for WYSIWYG but for site management features.

AIUI, FrontPage actually has some pretty good tools in this area. As
long as you aren't using it for code editing, I don't see a big need to
switch to something else. There may come a time when that becomes
necessary, but I don't think there's any rush.

Dreamweaver has all kinds of similar tools, but is pricey. Someone
mentioned Expression Web as the next generation FP, which is probably
worth looking into.

Something like Kompozer is totally inadequate for a site as large as yours.

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