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My cousin had a firm design a site for him and I just checked it out
today.  On my system (Win XP Pro) I saw some problems.

1.  Content is missing on the "About Pat" "Author" and "Speaker" pages
when displayed in Mozilla-based browsers (SeaMonkey 1.1.14, Firefox
2.  The Paypal "Order Now" button returns an error page in SeaMonkey.
3.  In all the browsers I tested (IE7, Safari for Windows, Firefox,
SeaMonkey) there are display issues when browser text (or page) is zoomed.



Safari Windows

screenshots taken at 1280 x 1024 resolution.

IE6 screen shot taken at 1024 x. 768 resolution.

Pat replied that his Firefox (no version or OS given) had no problems.
I checked Firefox using a virgin profile and had the same problems.

I'd much appreciate anyone who can take the time to test the site and
report any thoughts/problems.

I did peruse the CSS and it uses a lot of pixel-specific code.

Oddly, the best rendition of the site seemed to be in Safari for Windows.

Thanks in advance.

Ed Mullen
Friction can be a real drag.

Re: Web site display problems

Ed Mullen wrote:
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Sigh.  Geez.  I guess a link would help, eh?


BTW, his last name is pronounced "Rocky."

Sorry, just got back from a concert and the nightcaps are kicking in.

Ed Mullen
If at first you don't succeed, destroy all evidence that you tried.

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Even on Safari (Mac) the disappearing text occurs.

Add 'background: white;' to

   float: left;
   width: 380px;

and you will see where it drops to! It cannot fit in px specified boxes
when grown by user text size control.

There are many errors of HTML and CSS.


.blueMiddle a

business along with other things has the effect of making the text of an
important central block a mere image of text and unable to be enlarged
by text enlargement controls.

It is not a good idea all this trickery.


Re: Web site display problems

Ed Mullen wrote:
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Problems? I'd call them reasons for a total re-write.

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If you shrink your font size to flyspeck it'll come back. The authors have
made the colossal mistake of laying out the text themselves with <br> so it
fits in before the photo of Pat on the right. There is no right margin or
padding in there. Just the <br> elements. Look at the source code.

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Can't help with that one, it works for me.

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This is your standard "trying to fit content into a fixed sized box".  That
is why the have to resort to pictures of text and pixel sized text, not
realizing that modern browsers actually allow the text to be resized.

This is one horribly designed site. I hope your mate Pat didn't pay much for
it. If I were Pat I'd be asking for my money back. The design is, at least,
stupid. At most I'd say the authors are charlatans who should not be allowed
to publish web pages.

Have you looked at their web site, http://moonflarestudios.com /

First thing I notice is the one thousand and eighty nine kilobytes of
background image. Second is the absolutely stupid idea of putting the main
navigation inside a flash movie. I didn't look any further.

These guys are not web developers. They are graphic designers who have
drifted into an area where they should not be.

Re: Web site display problems

Ed Mullen wrote:

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I wonder what this is. Cached older (functioning) version on Pat's PC?

[OP Supplemental: Link is http://patrocchi.com /]

Oh, geez, I hate it when new sites are built this way (and when somebody
gets paid for doing so).

All kinds of DIV-itis, "XHTML", absolute positioning, <br /> line
breaks, (*key*) text as graphic, etc.

I get in FF2 exactly what you show for the About Pat page in FF, namely,
no text. The reason is in the use of z-index:-1; in .internalBody. Of
course, just removing that doesn't fix the page, because the picture of
Pat is displaced. It looks like .internalBody is used on the other pages
where you say text is missing, as well as
http://patrocchi.com/aboutBook.html .

And yes, on the Home page, the blue text drops down to the blue
background when I zoom text. Not the most important text, though, since
that's a (BG) graphic, and can't be zoomed for readability or indexed by
search engines. I hope Pat gets a partial refund.


FF, XP Pro, 1280x1024, 32-bit, JS off and on
Possessive "its" has no apostrophe. Even on the Internet.

Re: Web site display problems

Ed Mullen wrote:
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Thanks to everyone for the replies.  I've passed on the comments to Pat.
  It'll be interesting to see what happens.

Ed Mullen
I don't suffer from insanity. I enjoy every minute of it.

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Ed Mullen kirjoitti seuraavasti:
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Please, let us know, too!
http://users.utu.fi/athein /

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Ari Heino wrote:
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Definitely!  ;-)

Ed Mullen
Law of Probability Dispersal: Whatever it is that hits the fan will not
be evenly distributed.

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I went to the home page and the first thing that occurred to me was
"Would you buy a used car from that man?" Considering he paid for that
shlock only the demented might call a website had no bearing on the
matter. The answer was "No," anyway.

Awful Dog Autry

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