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Re: Web Editors

wrote:

But it's so easy to produce crap.

If you know your code well enough to NOT use the tool, the tool can save
you time. It's those who think it will do all the work so they don't have
to (and FP markets to them) who can never accomplish a website of worth.

If a carpenter could never build a cabinet with hand tools, then he
certainly cannot do it with power tools.

Re: Web Editors

Quoth the raven Neal:

Now there is a good sig line!  :-)

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DreamWeaver MX 2004 is by far the best of all the editors out there, but
it's a fairly big package and takes a bit to get to grips with. It hand;es
all of the really complex stuff very well though - including ASP, JSP, C#
and other .NET lanuages, plus the usual suspects - HTML, XHTML, CSS and XML
+ really good Flash support, great layer handling and one of the most simple
CSS and style management things on the market. Also great at site
management, and built in FTP.

FrontPage fails on almost all of these items in one way or another, and
should be seriously avoided.

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SpaceGirl wrote:

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I concur. It is easy enough to produce valid Strict code. (Except for an
irritating deficiency that often catches me out - it won't automatically
replace "&" in external links with a properly-escaped version! They typically
work, but don't validate).

But - don't go near Layout Mode! (I wish that was an extra cost option, and I
could get a refund on it).

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Nowhere wrote:

You want to edit the web? :)

1mm deep, in lines verticle and horizontal, 1cm apart, to create a
pattern like on a chess board, on yourself. All over your body.
Especially the "naughty" bits. Now imaging a swimming pool filled with
vinegar. Now imagine jumping in.

That's what frontpage is like, except it's worse. Frontpage is like
that, but then some bastard's taken out the climb-out ladders, and
raised the walls by 6 feet so you can't get out. Also, Frontpage has
some pharinas in there, along with 15 Great White Sharks, some deadly
jelly fish, and a very loud speaker-system that plays Barry Manilow
music which has been very badly mixed with Celine Dion.

It let's you type.

How: with an FTP program. I, personally, use WS_FTP. There's CuteFTP as

Where: To web-space on the world-wide-web. Usually your ISP will have
space - www.geocities.com, although purchasing web-space will allow for
greater flexibility. www.oneandone.co.uk (European and American) will
allow you to do this. They are an excellent hosting company. I have used
them for 3 years with not a single problem.

You have to buy one. 99% of web hosting companies will offer to sell you
a domain name. www.oneandone.co.uk can do it very cheaply for you. There
are a multitute of domain sellers out there.

no problem.

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David Dorward wrote:

Rsync+SSH is my fave.

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Toby A Inkster wrote:

Oh yes, its lovely. Site sans navigation and headings to online in three
easy steps.

1. perl prog/cms/perl/generateSite.pl

2. find prog/cms/working/target/ -name \*html -exec src/wdg/validate  {} \;

3. rsync -v -r -e 'ssh -C' prog/cms/working/target/
dorward.me.uk:/path/to/site/

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blah@blah.blah says...

Your trying to turn brucie on aren't you?
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Re: Web Editors

Whitecrest wrote:

heh no but I have used Frontpage in the past :)

Re: Web Editors

I would recommend FileZilla. Open Source, Free, supports sftp and multi-
http://filezilla.sourceforge.net /

data64

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Nowhere wrote:

HTML-kit; a free webeditor with many plugins.
The URL is www.chami.com
There are also newsgroups especially for the HTML-kit ->
news.chamisplace.com

Gerard Schaefers

Re: Web Editors

It really depends on how experienced you are.  I have always hated Frontpage
but used it at the beginning because I just didn't know any better.  Frontpage
adds unnecessary coding and won't allow some coding at all.  Now if you have
Netscape's Webpage Editor that's a good program to use if you don't have
anything else.  My editor of choice is Dreamweaver but it is costly and it can
be quite daunting to use at first but the main reason why I like this program
is because it lets you see how your page will look on the Internet before you

I use Notepad for quick and simple edits but you have to know a good deal of
.html language for that.

upload it too.  I don't know what ISP you are using but some give their members
webspace so that you can upload your pages to - and they provide instructions.
You can also try one of the free webhosting sites but be warned they are free