# Vertical spacing in cells

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in a table cell (which contains the whole the right side menu /
context bar of a page) I want to put one element/section/paragraph
aligned on the bottom of that cell, while all the rest shall is
flowing from the top of the cell.
What is a good method for that? some infinite, automatic vspacer
or so?

I'm only aware of possibly realizing the neighbor cells of the
outer table with rowspan=2 and thus maybe haven 2 cells for that
right bar area. the lower one with valign=bottom. But that seems
complicated and odd...

Robert

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Robert wrote:

(gets popcorn... waits...)

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-bts

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Beauregard T. Shagnasty wrote:

Too subtle, you may be eating a lot of popcorn.

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Jonathan
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## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

If you are going to use tables for layout, it would be odd not to
have the stomach for the perfectly normal uncomplicated use of
rowspan.

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

dorayme wrote:

Embedding a further borderless 2-row 1-column table inside this cell
would be easier since it would avoid the "complication" of having to
apply the rowspan=2 to all the other content outside of this cell.

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Why is applying a simple rowspan more complicated than "embedding
yet another table"? It is more complex markup for a start: more
elements (another TABLE, TR, TD...). What is driving you to say
these things? Is there a little something or three that you are
not telling us? How about a URL of your best shot that shows what
realistic thing you are trying to do on the page in question?

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

dorayme wrote:

Calm down.

Having the additional table within the cell in question means that the
changes needed to achieve what the OP desires is self-contained within
that very cell. Having to rowspan everything else is going to be higher
maintenance.

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

What *else* is there to rowspan? There are things you are not
telling us then, so maybe you should be less calm and spill the
whole beans! <g>

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Bob wrote:

that'd be true: a local solution. I tried this, but didn't get
that embedded 2-row table in that cell to vertically expand to the
cell height. how to?

Robert

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

After you finish dribbling bits of information here, someone will
come along and give you a hand. Give a URL of this last attempt
of yours (don't bother with the far simpler mere rowspan, that is
for some reason that still remains obscure, unacceptable to you.)

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

dorayme wrote:

how can make this vertical positionion "at the right bottom of a
certain area" with other means than tables? a simple example?

(the other cells need all to have correct spans - I often ended in
ill tables when doing so. and just for the purpose of this need of
local positioning of an element which has nothing to do with the
greater table layout ..-.)

Robert

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Why should we go down that road when I have not a clue what you
are really doing. I am not complaining about your use of tables.
Go ahead and use tables. But you seem unwilling to give a URL
that gives an idea of what you want, and you reject rowspan for
some obscure reason.

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

dorayme wrote:

see not other solution than rowspan. didn't the that embedded
table to extend to full vertical extent.

a google keyword hint or so regarding the other option(s) would be
enough. typically I find way upon that. no big road necessary.

Robert

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Robert wrote:

Can't understand why folks ask questions, but will refuse to supply a
URL to what they are trying that fails, then dismiss all suggestions,
announce that they know the *only* solution which is known to be
patently false by we who actually *know* that we are doing...whew!

BTW to OP your really should update your SeaMonkey, 1.1.5 is ancient,
numerous enhancements and security patched have been apply to current 2.0.2

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Take care,

Jonathan
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http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

[...]

When you test your web design I think you should not use the latest
version of a browser. SeaMonkey might be better than Firefox, but we
all know it's the same rendering engine.

We all need a browser to use in regular life. Well, if you need a
"working horse" that nobody cares about, SeaMonkey might be the
choice.

But if you're using SeaMonkey as your "working horse" you should not
use the lates version of Firefox. I mean you should also test for
previous versions of that rendering engine.

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Roy A. wrote:

Ooookay, but what does that have to do with what I said? I was not
talking about testing, I have NN4.61 for testing (I don't really bother
any more, but never bother to uninstall) but I don't USE it for
browsing|posting.

SeaMonkey vs Firefox. Again this was not my point. Only his version is
ancient, and there have been numerous security patches.  You chould keep
your browser up to date for security reasons. Unlike the
OS-component-posing-as-a-web-browser, SeaMonkey is not tied to the OS
and unless he is still running Win95 he can update.

Huh? SeaMonkey happens to be my default browser. I just happen to like
the "suite" over the standalones...

Firstly SeaMonkey lags Firefox. Mozilla doesn't support SeaMonkey
anymore an independent team took up the role after Mozilla wanted to
focus on Firefox|Thunderbird route. SeaMonkey team must wait for Firefox
folks before they can incorporate them into SeaMonkey. Firefox 3.x has
been out for some time now and it is only recently that SeaMonkey went
from 1.1.18 (Firefox 2.x engine) to 2.x (Firefox 3.x engine). But again,
what does this have to do with what I wrote, I wasn't talking about
testing.

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

If you have to use SeaMonkey, well do it! But you should realize that
Firefox and SeaMonkey (particularly) is Netscape Navigator in
disguise.

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

Roy A. wrote:

What? There is no Netscape Navigator anymore. AOL finally dropped it.

http://browser.netscape.com/history

Anyway Firefox|SeaMonkey by Mozilla split company from Netscape when AOL
took over. Yes all based on Gecko, but not sure what is your point. My
point is that the OP should update what he was using for among other
things security reasons. My SeaMonkey 2.0.2 is not the same codebase as
the last Navigator NN9.x which is based on older engine using in SM1.x
and FF2.x

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Take care,

Jonathan
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LITTLE WORKS STUDIO
http://www.LittleWorksStudio.com

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

In article

I saw SeaMonkey (dressed as a fireman) trying to sneak in to this
building the other day. "Hello, hello, hello", I ses to it, "Wot
'ave we 'ere. 'Ave we a littl' monkey?"

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dorayme

## Re: Vertical spacing in cells

dorayme wrote:

And I saw SeaMonkey slide into me ale last night!  And she got terribly
drunk and commenced saying:

"Oh!  I feel so like a fire fox!!!"

And I said ...

"Well, ok!  Let's go back to my place!  And see if we can ruffle up some
other inane names for software products while we stir you up!"

To wit I offer up:

http://edmullen.net/temp/Berkley Hart at Java Joe's - Stir It Up.mp3

Large file, you poor dial-up folks, be patient.

Stir it up ... gotta love Berkley Hart ...

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Ed Mullen
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I thought about how mothers feed their babies with little tiny spoons
and forks so I wonder what Chinese mothers use. Toothpicks?