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Bryan wrote:

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And really irritate a lot of people

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This is the standard method

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By really annoying anyone who tries to print the page.

If you want protection, use the means that is designed for it. Copyright
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Re: Making pictures harder to steal...

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How Do I Keep People From Stealing My Stuff?
The desire to protect your material is a natural one. Who wants to work hard
to create something unique only to have some slimeball steal it? The
problem, in terms of publishing information on the Internet, is the entire
nature of the HTTP protocol makes your efforts to disrupt the efforts of
thieves totally and completely ineffective.

The Hypertext Transfer Protocol is an application-level protocol with the
lightness and speed necessary for distributed collaborative hypermedia
information systems. It is a generic stateless object oriented protocol that
listens for traffic on Port 80. What does this mean to the layperson? The
issue of preventing theft relies on its being "stateless". Simply put, HTTP
works like this: 1) "Site Visitor" clicks a link to get to your page. 2) The
server sends the page to their computer. 3) The page is displayed on "Site
Visitor's" monitor. At the same time, the browser automatically saves the
page and all of the images and other objects used to build the page in the
browser's cache. The purpose for caching is to save on server load and
quicken download times. If a site has the same 30k logo on every page, it
saves the server 30k's worth of bandwidth load everytime someone requests
another page during their session. It also saves "Site Visitor" however much
time 30k takes to download on their connection. The issue here though, is
that as soon as the page is displayed on screen, it is already "stolen"!

So at this point, you'd think people would just give up, right?
Unfortunately, no. Instead, they try to implement harebrained ideas like
disabling the right mouse button by using Javascript. Is it any wonder why
people turn off Javascript altogether? At best, a "no right click" script
will keep clueless newbies from stealing your images. I would guess though,
that the same people too clueless to get past this method are also too
clueless to use the right-click to steal something in the first place. At
the same time, the rest of the world is annoyed at this misguided trick.
Clicking the right mouse button is used for more things than just saving
images. It can also be used as a navigational tool.

The right-click menu also displays a number of important navigational aids
that people (such as myself) often use to get around. Because of the fact
that "no right click" scripts disable any use of the right mouse button,
you're actually disabling a navigational feature more than you are
preventing theft. By disabling the right mouse button, you're rudely
dictating to the user how they can navigate your site. What if I don't want
to go all the way to the top left of my browser window just to go back? Why
should I? That's right, because you decided to mess with my hardware. In a
misguided attempt to prevent theft, users of "no right click" scripts are
doing nothing more than buggering their user's navigation.

The determined thief can do more than just right click to steal. Law
enforcement professionals know one thing above all others: Locks and other
theft prevention devices only serve to keep honest people honest. The theory
is: keeping your keys in your ignition will increase your chances of getting
your car stolen only because it provides an impetus in
not-otherwise-criminal people. A determined car thief will steal your car
whether your keys are there or not. The same goes for people who want to
steal your stuff. "Go ahead with that silly javascript and I'll steal it
anyway" says the thief. And he can do so with confidence. While you sit back
thinking you're keeping people from stealing (as if it wasn't already
stolen, see above), there are still other ways to steal:

   1. See that purdy "File" on the top left of your screen? Click it then
click on "Save As" Badabing! The WHOLE page and its contents are now saved.
Congratulations. Now the person has not only the one image he/she really
wanted, but now they have every image on the page.
   2. In Windows, click Alt+Print Screen and they now have a 72dpi image of
everything on their screen. Now cut and paste it into any image program
   3. "View Source" then find the path of the file and type it into the
browser's address bar

So at this point, it is just time to face the truth: You can't prevent theft
of your stuff. If you're really that concerned with not having your stuff
stolen, don't put it on the Internet. But there's another thing at issue
here: The fact that no matter how good you think your stuff is, you're no
Ansel Adams or William Talbot. Does the website for Ansel Adams have a
no-right-click script? No. Does the Van Gogh Gallery have a no-right-click
script? No. Then why should yours? I can download whole books by the world's
greatest philosophers and authors. But you want to hide your sourcecode from
the world? Your choice is simple - accept the nature of the Internet, or
don't make a web site.

Karl Core

Charles Sweeney says my sig is fine as it is.

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and then Bryan said:

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Will certainly piss off 90% of people who want to use "open in new window"

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This is the only way that will take anyone with the slightest inkling of
techical ability more than four seconds to get around.

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It doesn't.

They can't.

Not only is there no way at all that cannot be bypassed at all, there is no
way that cannot be bypassed easily that is not a significant nuiscance to
many or most normal visitors.

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My feelings exactly, but there are some instances where anti-theft technology
would be great.

The original poster's situation being one of them. There are certain areas of
business online that have got webmasters who think nothing of stealing your
work. It sounds like the OP is likely selling wholesale goods online, and his
competition does fall into that category.

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Talc Ta Matt wrote:
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Great it would be.  Unfortunately it is impossible.  We must accept that and
move on to other more profitable areas of endeavour - like building a useful
site that generates lots of traffic.

William Tasso -

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