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Re: Proper headings

Ben C wrote:

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Well it's not _completely_ off-topic...

Even the most modern form of Greek, after the writing reform in the 1980s,
uses stress accent, though just one: the acute accent (called tonos in
Greek), as opposite to three different accents (which had lost their
difference in pronunciation in ancient times). It also uses another
diacritic mark, the dieresis (called dialytika in Greek).

The stress accent is used in all words except unstressed monosyllabics, to
indicate the position of stress, which is essential and distinctive (i.e.
may be the only difference between words).

A common Greek keyboard has a key for adding a stress mark or a dieresis or
both on the following vowel, so typing should not be a problem. The keyboard
driver converts the combination to a single character (Unicode code point)
that consist of a letter and a diacritic mark (or two of them). This works
for uppercase letters, too. The glyphs may differ from what you expect,
since e.g. while the lowercase alpha has the stress mark above it, the
uppercase alpha has it on the left of it.

You can enter such characters on a web page as such, provided that you use a
character encoding that allows it. Even the old 8-bit encodings for Greek
(such as "Windos Greek") contain such "precomposed" characters for capital
letters, too. They lack some rare characters such as capital iota with
stress mark and dieresis, but such characters would only appear in
all-uppercase text and could, if desired, be written there using combining
diacritic marks.

In principle, you could always enter a letter with a diacritic mark as a
sequence of a base letter and a combining diacritic mark. E.g., if you used
character references in HTML for some reason, you could use Αĭ
(capital alpha followed by combining acute accent) instead of Ά
(capital alpha with stress mark). It does not pay off, though. On moder
browsers you probably get the same rendering, but old browsers may do odd
things with combining diacritics, e.g. putting them over the base letter
crudely in a fixed position independently of the base letter shape.

Besides, there are still people who write modern Greek in the old,
"polytonic" system. And if you would like to quote a pre-1980s book in
Greek, it would be appropriate to use its orthography. That's quite possible
in HTML, either using UTF-8 or using character references, though you might
want to find a suitably advanced editor that lets you type the characters


Re: Proper headings

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We use that occasionally in English too.

Re: Proper headings

On 2010-03-28 02:11 dorayme wrote:
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I had added the <h6> last while wondering what I should do about it, and
knowing that I had to do something about it.

(1) An obvious alternative is:

   <span>by author</span></h1>



  <h2>poems' section 1</h2>

     <h3>POEM 1 TITLE</h3>
     <h3>POEM 2 TITLE</h3>

   <h2>poems' section 2</h2>

     <h3>POEM 1 TITLE</h3>
     <h3>POEM 2 TITLE</h3>
     <h3>POEM 3 TITLE</h3>

My problem with this is that the first <h2> subsection is not equivalent
to the other 2, nor is it's <h3> equivalent to the other <h3>s.

(2) The way to avoid this would be to assign:



omitting the <h2> and <h3>. The problem with this is the intro and the
disclaimer are not included in the webpage's structure.

(3) But maybe a better idea would be to enclose them within

   <div class="into">

and *define their <h2> and <h3> separately with CSS in parallel to the
<h2> and <h3> of the main part of the webpage*, which is already
enclosed within

   <div class="poems">

I am not sure whether the idea to have 2 sets of parallel headings
within different (and unequal) sections is OK, but it seems logical enough.

What do you think of these ideas?



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Re: Proper headings

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I have used this myself ... as in


To make it useful, style the span, perhaps to be a smaller
percentage font-size than the main size for the h1.  

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The introduction h2 is one reasonable way, I guess. You could
also just introduce things under the the h1 in a paragraph (as I
have done at the above URL. An actual "Introduction" looked a bit
fussy so I just set it not to display visually).

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Equivalence is a tricky notion. Be careful. What it means for two
things to be the same or similar depends entirely on the pattern
being employed. And there are *no rules* to say what the correct
patterns must always be.

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Are you sure? See my cryptic remarks above about equivalence. How
firm a grip does anyone have on what is and what is not in
general part of a web page structure?  
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I think you should keep it simple and think of the h2 headings as
anything directly under the main heading and topic. What you did
first up...

I have misgivings about the disclaimer being entitled to a sub
heading under the introduction heading. Why not just have it as a
last paragraph in the introduction. Or, depending on its nature,
stick a link to it in a footer.


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