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Windows 2008 CA can't issue to Windows 2003 server Doug Evans 06-25-2008
Posted by Doug Evans on June 25, 2008, 11:53 am
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I apologize for the crosspost, but we are hurting here without a resolution
to this issue.

We have just setup a Windows 2008 PKI Infrastructure in our Windows 2003
based domain. We need to issue certificates to Windows 2003 servers and
Windows XP clients. We are getting "The integrity of this certificate
cannot be guaranteed. The certificate may be corrupted or may have been
altered." On the Details tab of the certificate, we see version is "V3",
Public key is "RSA (1024 Bits)", Thumprint algorithm is "sha1". On the
Certification Path tab, every certificate shows the error "This certificate
has an nonvalid digital signature.".

We can generate valid certificates for Windows 2008 servers and for Vista
computers. Our research indicates we need to install the version 2
templates, but don't know where to get them or how to install them.

Thanks!

Doug Evans
IT Manager
Association of Washington Cities



Posted by Brian Komar \(MVP\) on June 25, 2008, 12:18 pm
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You are mixing up certificate type (X.509 version 3) with certificate
template type (a MS concept of what properties/algorithms are available).
A couple of things to check:
1) Make sure that you are using legacy CSPs and signing algorithms. (not a
Key storage provider)
2) Windows XP/2003 cannot consume certificates using SHA2 algorithms
(SHA256, SHA512, SHA384).
3) This is for every certificate in the chain
If you want, send me a PKCS#7 containing the full certificate chain for
inspection
Brian

>I apologize for the crosspost, but we are hurting here without a resolution
>to this issue.
>
> We have just setup a Windows 2008 PKI Infrastructure in our Windows 2003
> based domain. We need to issue certificates to Windows 2003 servers and
> Windows XP clients. We are getting "The integrity of this certificate
> cannot be guaranteed. The certificate may be corrupted or may have been
> altered." On the Details tab of the certificate, we see version is "V3",
> Public key is "RSA (1024 Bits)", Thumprint algorithm is "sha1". On the
> Certification Path tab, every certificate shows the error "This
> certificate
> has an nonvalid digital signature.".
>
> We can generate valid certificates for Windows 2008 servers and for Vista
> computers. Our research indicates we need to install the version 2
> templates, but don't know where to get them or how to install them.
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug Evans
> IT Manager
> Association of Washington Cities
>
>


Posted by Doug Evans on June 25, 2008, 12:39 pm
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Thanks, I believe we may have setup the root server using SHA256, and 2
issuing servers with SHA1. We'll start over and see if we get a better
experience.


> You are mixing up certificate type (X.509 version 3) with certificate
> template type (a MS concept of what properties/algorithms are available).
> A couple of things to check:
> 1) Make sure that you are using legacy CSPs and signing algorithms. (not
> a Key storage provider)
> 2) Windows XP/2003 cannot consume certificates using SHA2 algorithms
> (SHA256, SHA512, SHA384).
> 3) This is for every certificate in the chain
> If you want, send me a PKCS#7 containing the full certificate chain for
> inspection
> Brian
>
>>I apologize for the crosspost, but we are hurting here without a
>>resolution to this issue.
>>
>> We have just setup a Windows 2008 PKI Infrastructure in our Windows 2003
>> based domain. We need to issue certificates to Windows 2003 servers and
>> Windows XP clients. We are getting "The integrity of this certificate
>> cannot be guaranteed. The certificate may be corrupted or may have been
>> altered." On the Details tab of the certificate, we see version is "V3",
>> Public key is "RSA (1024 Bits)", Thumprint algorithm is "sha1". On the
>> Certification Path tab, every certificate shows the error "This
>> certificate
>> has an nonvalid digital signature.".
>>
>> We can generate valid certificates for Windows 2008 servers and for Vista
>> computers. Our research indicates we need to install the version 2
>> templates, but don't know where to get them or how to install them.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Doug Evans
>> IT Manager
>> Association of Washington Cities
>>
>>
>


Posted by Doug Evans on June 25, 2008, 4:30 pm
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What is the best way to recover from a scenario where you have a root CA and
2 issuing CAs, all Windows 2008, and the root was setup with a SHA256 cert?
Can you just change the cert? Do you have to uninstall everything and start
over? If so, what is the best process to decommission a Windows 2008 PKI
infrastructure?

Thanks!

Doug Evans
IT Manager, AWC


> You are mixing up certificate type (X.509 version 3) with certificate
> template type (a MS concept of what properties/algorithms are available).
> A couple of things to check:
> 1) Make sure that you are using legacy CSPs and signing algorithms. (not
> a Key storage provider)
> 2) Windows XP/2003 cannot consume certificates using SHA2 algorithms
> (SHA256, SHA512, SHA384).
> 3) This is for every certificate in the chain
> If you want, send me a PKCS#7 containing the full certificate chain for
> inspection
> Brian
>
>>I apologize for the crosspost, but we are hurting here without a
>>resolution to this issue.
>>
>> We have just setup a Windows 2008 PKI Infrastructure in our Windows 2003
>> based domain. We need to issue certificates to Windows 2003 servers and
>> Windows XP clients. We are getting "The integrity of this certificate
>> cannot be guaranteed. The certificate may be corrupted or may have been
>> altered." On the Details tab of the certificate, we see version is "V3",
>> Public key is "RSA (1024 Bits)", Thumprint algorithm is "sha1". On the
>> Certification Path tab, every certificate shows the error "This
>> certificate
>> has an nonvalid digital signature.".
>>
>> We can generate valid certificates for Windows 2008 servers and for Vista
>> computers. Our research indicates we need to install the version 2
>> templates, but don't know where to get them or how to install them.
>>
>> Thanks!
>>
>> Doug Evans
>> IT Manager
>> Association of Washington Cities
>>
>>
>


Posted by Brian Komar \(MVP\) on June 25, 2008, 4:57 pm
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It is actually simpler to change the signing algorithm for the root CA,
rather than decomissioning.
This method can also be used at a later date when you have clients (read
Vista or higher) that support CNG
Here is the process:
1) Identify the CSP used by the root CA by running "certutil -getreg
ca\csp\Provider".
2) Run "certutil -v -csplist and ensuring that SHA1 is reported as a
supported protocol.
3) If SHA1 is supported, you would then add the values assigned to Algorithm
Class, Algorithm Type and Algorithm Sub-id (typically this is 0x8004) and
run "certutil -setreg ca\csp\HashAlgorithm 0x8004".
4) After executing the command, you must restart Certificate Services.

Issue a certificate from the root, and verify that the signature uses SHA1.
You must then renew the two issuing CA certificates.

Brian


> What is the best way to recover from a scenario where you have a root CA
> and 2 issuing CAs, all Windows 2008, and the root was setup with a SHA256
> cert? Can you just change the cert? Do you have to uninstall everything
> and start over? If so, what is the best process to decommission a Windows
> 2008 PKI infrastructure?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Doug Evans
> IT Manager, AWC
>
>
>> You are mixing up certificate type (X.509 version 3) with certificate
>> template type (a MS concept of what properties/algorithms are available).
>> A couple of things to check:
>> 1) Make sure that you are using legacy CSPs and signing algorithms. (not
>> a Key storage provider)
>> 2) Windows XP/2003 cannot consume certificates using SHA2 algorithms
>> (SHA256, SHA512, SHA384).
>> 3) This is for every certificate in the chain
>> If you want, send me a PKCS#7 containing the full certificate chain for
>> inspection
>> Brian
>>
>>>I apologize for the crosspost, but we are hurting here without a
>>>resolution to this issue.
>>>
>>> We have just setup a Windows 2008 PKI Infrastructure in our Windows 2003
>>> based domain. We need to issue certificates to Windows 2003 servers and
>>> Windows XP clients. We are getting "The integrity of this certificate
>>> cannot be guaranteed. The certificate may be corrupted or may have been
>>> altered." On the Details tab of the certificate, we see version is
>>> "V3",
>>> Public key is "RSA (1024 Bits)", Thumprint algorithm is "sha1". On the
>>> Certification Path tab, every certificate shows the error "This
>>> certificate
>>> has an nonvalid digital signature.".
>>>
>>> We can generate valid certificates for Windows 2008 servers and for
>>> Vista computers. Our research indicates we need to install the version
>>> 2 templates, but don't know where to get them or how to install them.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Doug Evans
>>> IT Manager
>>> Association of Washington Cities
>>>
>>>
>>
>


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