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Posted by Magic on September 15, 2005, 9:07 pm
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In my case ( tmobile ) I pay flat fee for access to all of the internet not
just WAP end of it
yea then they may not be willing to let me download allot of content.
Tmobile really does not care how I connect to my phone and what im
connecting
palmpilot, laptop, fax machine or CHA-30 chatpen
they don't always make it easy for me to help with figuring how to connect
to my phone
(especialy that I did not get it from them)
But you say if your VZ phone is _not_ used to "purchase" content (ringtones
I'm guessing ? )
than you get away with _not_ paying for it ?
Am I getting it right?
So how about advertisment I saw on TV about VZ's brodband speed connection
for wireless?
why would you need that for your phone?
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> Magic wrote:
> > And why would Verizon even care how you connect to YOUR phone
> Simple...
> If you're downloading apps and content to your phone any other way other
> than using your phone to purchase VZ content, they make no money.
> Verizon is about to settle a big class action regarding the disabling of
BT
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> in their version of the Motorola V710.
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Posted by Steve Sobol on September 15, 2005, 6:57 pm
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Magic wrote:
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> But you say if your VZ phone is _not_ used to "purchase" content (ringtones
> I'm guessing ? )
> than you get away with _not_ paying for it ?
> Am I getting it right?
Yes, ringtones and apps and wallpaper, etc.
But no, what I'm saying is that if you download stuff to your phone using
Bluetooth or a data cable, Verizon doesn't make money on that download. The
only way they make money is by you purchasing GetItNow! content from them.
That's their incentive for disabling some Bluetooth functionality (and, for
that matter, possibly disabling the ability to download stuff via a data
cable, though I don't know whether they've done that).
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> So how about advertisment I saw on TV about VZ's brodband speed connection
> for wireless? why would you need that for your phone?
To hook it up to a laptop, I assume. They have data cards that do EVDO
(broadband) speeds too.
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Posted by Victor Roberts on September 15, 2005, 9:24 pm
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>Magic wrote:
>> And why would Verizon even care how you connect to YOUR phone
>Simple...
>If you're downloading apps and content to your phone any other way other
>than using your phone to purchase VZ content, they make no money.
I can use my Verizon StarTac to download anything I want
using a cable connection and without any additional payment
to Verizon. I have not yet upgraded to a Verizon Bluetooth
enabled phone only because I cannot use BT in place of the
cable connection.
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>Verizon is about to settle a big class action regarding the disabling of BT
>in their version of the Motorola V710.
Please tell us more about this lawsuit.
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Posted by Steve Sobol on September 15, 2005, 7:00 pm
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> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:18:41 -0700, Steve Sobol
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>>Magic wrote:
>>>And why would Verizon even care how you connect to YOUR phone
>>Simple...
>>If you're downloading apps and content to your phone any other way other
>>than using your phone to purchase VZ content, they make no money.
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> I can use my Verizon StarTac to download anything I want
> using a cable connection and without any additional payment
> to Verizon.
Yeahbut, that's to be expected, StarTACs can't download GetItNow! content
anyhow. None of the StarTACs were able to do custom ringtones or graphics
and certainly not downloadable applications. The last StarTAC I remember VZW
selling was the 7868W. You could make calls and do text messaging with it.
And I'm not even sure about text messaging...
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> Please tell us more about this lawsuit.
I'll have to find the URL for you.
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Posted by Victor Roberts on September 15, 2005, 10:46 pm
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>Victor Roberts wrote:
>> On Thu, 15 Sep 2005 17:18:41 -0700, Steve Sobol
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>>>Magic wrote:
>>>>And why would Verizon even care how you connect to YOUR phone
>>>Simple...
>>>If you're downloading apps and content to your phone any other way other
>>>than using your phone to purchase VZ content, they make no money.
>>
>>
>> I can use my Verizon StarTac to download anything I want
>> using a cable connection and without any additional payment
>> to Verizon.
>Yeahbut, that's to be expected, StarTACs can't download GetItNow! content
>anyhow. None of the StarTACs were able to do custom ringtones or graphics
>and certainly not downloadable applications. The last StarTAC I remember VZW
>selling was the 7868W. You could make calls and do text messaging with it.
>And I'm not even sure about text messaging...
I have been told by Verizon that the V710 can be used in
data/fax mode with a cable connection. They have only
disabled Bluetooth. They claim this was for "security."
Yes, the ST7868W can do two-way text messaging if you have
installed the on-line firmware upgrades.
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> > And why would Verizon even care how you connect to YOUR phone
> Simple...
> If you're downloading apps and content to your phone any other way other
> than using your phone to purchase VZ content, they make no money.
> Verizon is about to settle a big class action regarding the disabling of